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Defending boundaries

I’ve been thinking this week about boundaries. Personal boundaries — how we set them (or fail to) and how, even when we think we’ve established our boundaries firmly, other people try to override them.

I got onto this topic while writing my current S.W.A.T. magazine article. (Shameless plug: It’s called “Charles Manson, Me, and the TSA,” and if that title intrigues you, you’ve got time to subscribe to the ‘zine, because the piece is scheduled appear in March (in the April 2011 issue). If you’ll remind me, I’ll post the article here once it’s appeared in S.W.A.T..)

Manson bent — and the TSA bends — individuals to their will in part by violating sexual boundaries — by stripping away morality, modesty, and personal judgment and replacing those self-driven characteristics with mere obedience. In Manson’s case, he turned “nice” young women into killers. The TSA aims lower; it wants only harmless drones.

Of course, most boundary violations are less grotesque than Manson’s or Napolitano-Chertoff’s (he of the Rape-i-Scanner lobbying).

If you frequently find yourself committing to do jobs you’d rather not, you’ve got boundary issues. If somebody gets away with constantly belittling you … boundary issue. If you feel you have to do something just because someone else will be disappointed in you if you don’t … boundary issue. If you feel you have to “comply” with unjust authority when your higher self tells you that a free person wouldn’t so easily give in … boundary issue.

Among the touchy-feely set, there’s a lot of talk about setting boundaries. Some of it is so fuzzy-wuzzy it’s like gagging on a tribble. Some is sensible and useful, like this advice directed toward abused men and this solid stuff aimed at protecting ourselves from pressures in the business world.

I even found a site whose article about boundary issues challenged one of my boundaries: Oprah.com (you just knew Oprah would have something about boundary-setting, didn’t you?) has an article on the subject that pops up near the top of Google results. But when I go to that page using Firefox with NoScript enabled, I get a completely blank screen. Just white. Seems that you have to enable JavaScript merely to look at an Oprah.com article. And sorry, but even though I really don’t think sweet old Oprah is going to do anything malicious to my computer, I ain’t enabling JavaScript unless a site persuades me that there’s good good reason to. And a blank screen persuades me only that the site designers are as stupid as rocks. Ah well.

But here’s the thing. There’s a lot of perfectly good, commonsense advice about setting boundaries. There’s very little about the endless battle to defend boundaries once we’ve set them.

Boundaries are particularly difficult for a lot of women. Or for anybody who was abused or belittled when growing up. It takes moxie to nerve ourselves to the point of saying to somebody, “Here’s my line. Respect it. Do not cross it.”

We work up all that nerve. We fear that we’ll lose a friend or make our boss mad or get in some kind of trouble when we finally work up the courage to set our boundary. We enter the situation shaking in our metaphoric boots. We take a deep breath. We make our position known.

To our relief, the boundary violator commonly says, “Oh. Definitely. I understand. Thank you for being so clear. I’ll be more careful in the future.”

We walk away relieved, happy, strong. (“I am person; hear me roar.”)

Then comes suckitude.

We find out that merely setting or stating the boundary is futile. The person who has been crossing our line — whatever our line may be — continues to push past it as if we never said a thing.

The friend who constantly imposes on our time keeps dropping in without notice. The boss who asks us to bend our ethics keeps nudging us to fudge our principles. The spouse who belittles us keeps on digging at our soul. The census taker shows up at our door after the fifth time we’ve said NO. The volunteer coordinator who keeps asking us to do just one more itty-bitty “Oh, I know you said … and I’m sorry to impose … but this won’t take up more than a few minutes of your time” task keeps asking. Oh so politely. But still asking, even after you’ve laid down what you thought was a very firm NO.

Since it took so much guts to set and state the boundary in the first place, it’s easy to fall into one of two reactions. Either we say, “OMG, boundary setting just doesn’t work! I give up!” or we get tough and kick the offending person out of our life.

Sometimes kicking the person out is the only way — or the smartest way — to go. Sometimes — as in the case of TSA agents, cops, or other anointed-by-the-state boundary violators, avoidance is (for most people) the most prudent course.

But sometimes you simply have to nerve up and lay that boundary down all over again. The person violating your boundary is in your life, for good or ill. You can’t afford to give up that job. You can’t avoid flying. You don’t want to get a divorce. You know you’re going to see that cop or bureaucrat whether you choose to or not. The friend who’s being such an ass about that one thing is a gem in a thousand other ways. You must not only set the boundary again; you must let them know that there will be consequences if they continue to trespass. And mean it.

So the question is: How do you defend that boundary without constant spirit-sapping stress or perpetual and unacceptable risk?

And here I stop. There will be a Part II to this topic. Shortly, I hope. But first … what are your techniques for defending personal boundaries that you’ve set? (Yes, I hope to mine the best responses for that Part II. The commenters on this blog are often just plain damn brilliant. But I’ve had to deal with this lately myself, so I’m saving up some ideas of my own.)

19 Comments

  1. Fred
    Fred November 17, 2010 7:19 am

    Is that a typo in the title?

  2. Iwoots
    Iwoots November 17, 2010 7:36 am

    Fred, I was wondering about that also; but then figured that when one finally ‘defines’ one’s boundaries, one also ‘finds’ one’s boundaries (and freedom).

  3. Claire
    Claire November 17, 2010 7:59 am

    OMG! I just did a Sarah Palin — accidentally made up a faux word that sorta kinda works. “Definding.” Arg.

    But yes, it was a typo. Fixed now.

  4. Kent McManigal
    Kent McManigal November 17, 2010 8:20 am

    It’s a whole lot easier for me when I’ve set the boundaries from the very beginning, and stood my ground all along. When I have given in once, “just to be nice”, I find it becomes a never-ending battle. I don’t know how to regain the ground I have lost in that way. So I suppose my advice would be to know where your boundaries are, and never compromise one, not even once, unless you are willing to let that one go forever.

  5. Pat
    Pat November 17, 2010 8:36 am

    Seemingly/partially off topic: As a kid and a young adult I was quiet, never spoke up, was gullible and tractable to a fault. One day I woke up with an ulcer. While recuperating from the ulcer (we were allowed to do that then, not just given a prescription and sent back to work), I suddenly realized that MY health was not worth ANYBODY ELSE’s desires. Without trying too hard, I began to speak up — and speak out — at work, around family, and in society in general. My personality became more outgoing, people respected me more, and I became more consciously happy. Though ulcers are now thought to be caused by “a virus”, I’ve never had another ulcer since.

    In setting boundaries, we have to know if the other person (or situation) is really worth getting an “ulcer” for. I’ve learned to read the other person’s motivation when he starts to speak, and cut him off with a shake of the head, or a comment that I’m busy. Most times I just say No. I’ve found that a flat-out No… No, I can’t… No, I won’t be available… No, I don’t agree with that (if they want an explanation, they’ll have to ask for, *and listen to,* it)… is more effective and a bigger turnoff for future requests than any excuse, explanation, or attempt to be nice.

  6. Sam
    Sam November 17, 2010 9:50 am

    I had a friend for 40 years. We were close in many ways, but mostly because of a bond formed in Vietnam under high stress.

    Every once in a while his inner bigot would slip into some off-hand comment. If I let it slide /just once/, he’d escalate over time, apparently thinking I’d changed. And anger would grow until I’d finally confront him. He’d at first defend his bigotry, I’d blow that all to hell, then we’d not see each other for a few months. But eventually we’d be pals again. Repeat every few years.

    When I got into prepping I realized how important it is to trust those close to me. I’d trust this old friend with my wallet, but not with knowledge of my preps. That surprised me. I let the friendship die by not responding to emails (mostly jokes) and not sending anything.

    When we moved out of the area, surprise number two dawned on me. I felt enormous relief regarding this person: it was really over.

  7. bumperwack
    bumperwack November 17, 2010 10:12 am

    boundries!!??…who needs boundries when we have tribbles??!!

  8. MamaLiberty
    MamaLiberty November 17, 2010 11:42 am

    Excellent topic! I think the boundaries, and setting them, are an integral part of self ownership. If we know for sure that we alone own our lives and are responsible for them… we are at least not as vulnerable.

    False guilt and ownership/responsibility issues are at the base of most of this, I think. We – especially women – are taught that much, if not all self ownership is “selfish” and anti-social. We are usually raised to feel obligated to subject our own needs, and even principles, to what others want and that to do otherwise is abnormal or even pathological.

    And the result of all this is usually VERY self destructive behavior and attitudes in those who accept this false guilt and ultimate slavery. If they are convinced that their own ideas, needs and lives are unimportant or even evil, why would they strive to make the most of themselves?

    Anyway, that’s my experience.

  9. Samuel Adams
    Samuel Adams November 17, 2010 12:45 pm

    I think you should have let the typo stand. It is a nice little neologism. And you are in no danger of becoming a palindrone.

    Good essay on boundaries.

    One of my earliest attempts at defining my boundaries was when I decided to change my name. I was called “Sammie” while growing up. (uh, OK, while in my minority.) I decided “Samuel” was a better name, and started insisting on it. Some folks complied immediately. Others took a while, usually relatives.

  10. Ellendra
    Ellendra November 17, 2010 9:24 pm

    I’ve found that people respect boundaries when you don’t let them push past them. But, sometimes there are things that cause people to not want to push past. I tend to be over-analytical to the point of being disturbing (I’m currently trying to figure out why combining 2 words into one is suddenly being referred to as “doing a Sarah Palin” when people have been doing it since before the language started?) A reputation for mild insanity or borderline autism also helps.

    And sometimes, one just has to act like a &^%*h and then deal with the fallout

  11. cctyker
    cctyker November 17, 2010 10:22 pm

    Compromise.

    On the little crap, ya.

    On the stuff I really believe and act upon everyday, nope. I’ll stand alone, and try to do the best I can before I’ll compromise.

    A friend for me is one who respects me. He/she thinks as I do. We re-enforce each other because we share respect and similar attitudes about life.

    I’m not particularly religious; my wife is devout. We experience no tension over that issue because we respect each other, and we would not want to live life without each other. Yes, we think differently about Faith, but we also accept our differences. We don’t cross each other’s boundaries. We don’t want to. We want each other.

    If you want to purposely cross my boundaries, see ya.

  12. naturegirl
    naturegirl November 18, 2010 1:04 am

    Boundaries are great if you understand yourself well enough to establish some, if you actually have the guts to enforce them, and if you are willing to accept the trade offs for having them……

    Once I figured out my core ones (the ones not decided on in a instant) I also noticed a new personality trait popped up: avoidance…..I found myself avoiding people or situations I knew would become confrontational because of my personal boundaries (quick and simple example would be no longer flying due to not wanting to be publicly scanned and searched)…

    I find avoidance rather sad, but it helps to “protect” all those boundaries……I find having to trade off something is also sad……and at times it’s hard to decide who wins when other peoples’ boundaries collide with my own……one thing is certain, you own your boundaries – other people won’t follow them as consistently, as aggressively as you have to…..

    I find it fascinating when people automatically associate boundaries with something involving the body……that’s only a small piece of a very big puzzle that includes your heart, brain, self esteem, and especially your right to your own freedoms…..

  13. naturegirl
    naturegirl November 18, 2010 1:14 am

    Sorry, I forgot to answer the question, LOL

    “How do you defend that boundary without constant spirit-sapping stress or perpetual and unacceptable risk?”

    You say no, to others, to yourself in order to not waver……and not feel guilty for saying that word, either, then follow thru with your decision……

  14. CS
    CS November 19, 2010 6:11 pm

    How do you defend that boundary without constant spirit-sapping stress or perpetual and unacceptable risk?

    Retreat further into the wilderness. (As a kindred spirit on a blog wrote: “It’s gotten so I can barely stand anyone, anymore.”)

  15. Jason
    Jason February 12, 2011 8:59 am

    OK, I will set a boundary here. To women who make such comments as…

    “Boundaries are particularly difficult for a lot of women…”

    or

    ” We – especially women – are taught that much, if not all self ownership is “selfish” and anti-social…”

    I must say that something about the adverbs “particularly” and “especially” rub me the wrong way.

    Do these implied comparisons of women to men mean that boundaries are less difficult for lots of men than for lots of women, or that being taught that self ownership is anti-social happens less often or is less troublesome for boys than for girls?

    If you wish to respect others’ boundaries, I say you as women should not presume to know what is generally or particularly true for men in this regard.

    It would be more respectful, would it not, for all of us to speak for ourselves – and only for ourselves – as individuals, rather than for others, especially groups to which we do not belong.

    If I have misinterpreted the commentators’ comments, please correct me.

    Thanks.

  16. Claire
    Claire February 12, 2011 9:22 am

    Jason, the reason I (and I believe MamaLiberty, though I don’t claim to speak for her) used words like “generally” is avoid implying that I was stating any universal truths that apply to all men or all women. Of course there are women who find boundary setting easy and men for whom it’s extremely difficult. Of course there are women who’ve been born or raised with a strong sense of self and men who’ve been born or guilt-tripped into feeling they must live for others and therefore have little right to personal boundaries.

    Nevertheless, it is generally true that women are expected to be more “other-oriented” than men — more cooperative, more caretaking, more collaborative, more “nice.” Historically, we have been told more often that we’re being “selfish” when we focus on our own goals and self-interests. (That might apply less to 20something women; it was definitely true for women of previous generations.)

    I do believe that boundary setting is generally more difficult for women than for men. But not in all cases. And I also realize that generally men have other burdens to bear that weigh less heavily (or not at all) on most women.

    In no way do such statements deny that there’s tremendous variation and that every individual is different.

    And in no way do my statements or MamaLiberty’s claim to speak for any other person or deny any individual the right to speak for him or herself.

  17. Martin Lee
    Martin Lee February 13, 2011 10:24 am

    Mr. Wolfe:

    I think the subject of boundaries has primarily to do with respect. I will be 70 in a month and I still speak to or answer all men and women as yes mam no mam and yes sir or no sir or refer to them as Mr. or Mrs. or Miss so and so. Only when they tell me that I can use their first name, without my asking, do I do so. Respect opens doors for others and allows others – elders to go first. Respect is stopping your vehicle to allow someone to cross the street on foot. Ole’ fashioned? Perhaps.

    Now the dogs in government are a different story. TSA may call you Mr. and violate your body at the same time, all in the name of security. The question is, whose security?

    Moving far away from cities into the woods to escape the lack of respect is not the cure either.

    I think respect starts with “do unto other as you would have them do unto you.”

    From a spiritual perspective your body is supposed to be the temple of God. When someone violates your body they are violating God’s temple. It is time for all men and women to just say NO. No more. If that means we separate ourselves from those who would violate us so be it. If that means you lose someone you thought was a friend so be it. The real truth of the matter if they do not respect you now, they will not respect your property when under more stressful situations. They will want their fair share of what you have set aside for trying times.

    Be of good cheer. I have read the book and know how things will turn out in the end.

    Martin Lee

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