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The Holocaust happened to people like us

Via Sipsey Street and MTV:

Brilliantly believable. (Although since this was apparently MTV’s statement about Bush way-back-when, you gotta wonder if the makers of these spot-on-spots realize they apply even more to Bush’s twin, He Who is Not to Be Named.)

(Tip o’ hat to C^2.)


  1. Pat
    Pat December 20, 2011 6:20 pm

    “First they came for the Jews
    and I did not speak out
    because I was not a Jew.
    Then they came for the Communists
    and I did not speak out
    because I was not a Communist.
    Then they came for the trade unionists
    and I did not speak out
    because I was not a trade unionist.
    Then they came for me
    and there was no one left
    to speak out for me.” ~ Martin Neimoller

    It’s closing in.

  2. Kent McManigal
    Kent McManigal December 20, 2011 9:36 pm

    When that was posted on SSI, I thought it was recent since it seemed so incredibly timely, and was shocked that MTV would be that brave. One it was mentioned that this was a Bush-era ad that hasn’t been revived for Obama (AKA Bush 2.0), I was not surprised.

    I stand by the rest of my comment on Sipsey Street, inflammatory though it may be.

  3. Pat
    Pat December 21, 2011 4:26 am

    I’m confused by the timing of the videos. If it was made for Bush-bashing… what is Obama and NDAA doing on it? When was it collated?

    Musings on an early cold morning: I don’t believe that every Congressman is _inherently evil_ with Hitlerish intent (stupid and socialistic, yes, but not out-to-get-you evil), but since 9/11, every politician has started acting legislatively like kids in a candy shop who’ve been told they can have anything they want. They no longer try to cover up their intent, their greed for perks, their grasp for control, or their contempt for us, the “little people.” I’m amazed at the ideas they can think up, and the statements they make to justify their actions. When Sen. Graham says, “The homeland is part of the battlefield…”, does he truly realize what that means?

    Most of these “representatives”(!) never saw WWII, the Cold War, the Korean War, and quite possibly the Vietnam War except to protest it. (Yes, I know about exceptions like Daniel Inouye, John McCain, etc., but they are among the few — and getting fewer with each election.) Do they really want to bring war — *a real war environment* — to this country? Is it so hard for them to see where this legislation is going?

    I know this all sounds naïve, but I cannot believe that ANYONE is this stupid, blind, or unfeeling for what they’re proposing!

  4. bumperwack
    bumperwack December 21, 2011 5:51 am

    I don’t agree…I think they are fully aware of what total shitbirds they are…or, at least as aware mentally deficient psychotics can be

  5. Pat
    Pat December 21, 2011 6:22 am

    Yeah, I know. But sometimes this whole country seems surreal.

    I never thought I’d live to say this, but, as Chevalier said in Gigi, “I’m so glad that I’m not young anymore.” I cry for what America should have been, and I cry for my loved ones who will live after me.

    Thinking about this yesterday, I dreamed last night that they came to my door demanding my guns. But I got three of them before they got me; that’s the only consolation I felt when I woke up.

  6. Pat
    Pat December 21, 2011 7:02 am

    Addendum: “But sometimes this whole country seems surreal.”

    And maybe that’s been the problem. We took the dream of America TOO seriously — but it was just a _dream_ at the beginning. Americans refused to recognize the reality of where we were going, because we were so busy promoting the ‘dream’, we forgot to make it real.

    I do believe in the goodness of people and, because politicians are people, I tend to think even they may have some decency left in them somewhere. I will never understand hate, elitism, or desire for power. But I do understand that it exists.

    Didn’t mean to take over this blog; I’ll say no more.

  7. Karen
    Karen December 21, 2011 8:44 am

    As Pat commented, “It’s closing in” and it’s a maliciously pervasive thing. I’m almost embarassed to admit this, as one of Claire’s freedomista readers, but I’m having my own personal bit of angst over a silly little situation directly related to this.
    “angst 1.A feeling of acute but vague anxiety or apprehension often accompanied by depression, ESPECIALLY PHILOSOPHICAL ANXIETY.”(emphasis mine)

    I have a friend with a quirky predilection for a certain flavor. I enjoy trying to accomodate this with occaisional little gifties. I recently discovered a local winery with a chardonay(sp) in that particular flavor and was truly excited. When trying to order a bottle, the winery won’t ship to a PO box.
    OMFG, the children must be protected from getting their little hands on such a dangerous substance as wine.

    In the past, I’d have rushed over, bought the stuff and mailed it myself. For years I mailed my son-in-law local microbrew beers, with little or no consideration of the consequences. Someone recently mailed Joel(TUATK) a bottle of booze and lived to continue posting. After all, it’s just a simple bottle of alcoholic beverage.

    But this year, concern over the potential consequences has left me unwilling to take the risk. The magnitude of rampant stupidity in our figures of authoritah turns a simple transgression into a possible act of terrorism. And obviously, common sense and reason are antiquated ideas of the distant past.

    I have rational excuses. I’m a senior citizen who does some tangible good in the meat world and would be of no good use if locked up. Or the excuse of having a semi disabled spouse who’d be in a world of hurt if I got “detained” and weren’t here to be caregiver, but excuses are just that, aren’t they.

    Are these the sorts of internal discussions people were having with themselves in the early days of the Nazi regime? Do I take a stand on this petty little issue or just not rock the boat? The freedomista option is to just take the risk, flaunt authoritah, and mail a bottle of wine. The rational option is to go and get a gift cert to mail, if they have such a thing, but that’s certainly no statement. I don’t think it’s “Claire time”, especially at such a minor level, but is it time for something? At what level of govt induced fear will I, or any of us, stand up.

  8. Claire
    Claire December 21, 2011 8:56 am

    Karen, well said — and absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about. If there’s any freedomista here who hasn’t confronted a similar dilemma (often over and over again), I envy that person.

  9. Laird
    Laird December 21, 2011 9:20 am

    Pat, I didn’t see Obama anywhere in either of these. Where was it? Which video? I couldn’t see anything in them which indicated when they were made.

  10. Pat
    Pat December 21, 2011 11:27 am

    To Laird: In the video “Obama Signs NDAA Martial Law”, Obama speaks on the “imperfect document” of the Constitution.

    But I was more alluding to the videos in general which were apparently made much earlier by MTV, and now Obama signs this law into effect. That’s what confused me about when they were made.

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