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Still deadlining, but feeling marginally more sane …


  1. NTI survivor
    NTI survivor April 26, 2012 4:44 am

    Claire, There is a small Mom & Pop business that makes quality garments for armed people. I met Gingy (the owner) at the National Tactical Invitational many years ago. Not only does she make quality stuff she is a really nice lady too. I have a couple of her vests. They do not look “tactical” at all.

    When I see anyone wearing “tactical” clothing I assume they are carrying a gun. Therefore I never wear anything that is the rage among gun nuts. Royal Robins pants and photographers vests (with no camera evident) are dumb things for armed people to wear, regardless of how “practical” they seem to be. In my experience the most badass people don’t look the part.

  2. Claire
    Claire April 26, 2012 6:56 am

    Thanks for the link, NTI survivor — I like the women’s Hidden Advantage vest especially. That thing looks as if it would carry a LOT besides a gun. You’re right; none of her products look “tactical” at all. On the contrary, they’re almost too plain. But you could dress one of those vests up and make a fashion statement. πŸ™‚

  3. Matt, another
    Matt, another April 26, 2012 8:48 am

    I can understand the Govt wanting to ban farm kids from doing farm chores. It isn’t about protecting kids, it is about forcing family farmers off the land.

    At best, The Govt wants the farmers to give up and pass their farms along to corporate factory farms. This would allow the “farmers” to stay on the land as employees. Since the corporations would be more or less controlled by the Govt we would have a nice modern version of collectivized farming. Works well from what I hear, just ask the Ukranians.

    At worst (much worse) it is a gentile attempt to give farms away to a favored minority (or two) ala Mugabe in Zimbabwe. Deplete the farmers labor, when the farms go into receivership give them to minority groups, or sent groups to “Occupy” the farms and take them over. End result, farming comes to a halt and people get hungry.

    There is a small third possibility. Trying to force farmers to demand workers that can be paid at “family” wages (little or nothing) in order to justify importing agricultural workers from other countries, such as Mexico.

    Only part I don’t understand is why the farmers would be telling the Govt what their kids do on the farms. I never reported to anyone what kind of chores my kids did. They were pretty good house painters and nail drivers by the time they were teens.

  4. MamaLiberty
    MamaLiberty April 26, 2012 9:25 am

    Nice vests, but the price is WAY out of my range. I’m working to make my own carry friendly clothing, and it won’t be limited to vests – which I don’t care much for except during cold weather. πŸ™‚

    The real trick with a vest or pocket carry is to balance the weight with something on the other side, and then not to have both sides look “heavy.” I’d like a dime (inflation, you know) for every person I’ve seen with a lump and a droop in their clothing that just screams “gun.” Of course, most people don’t know to look for that, but it pretty much defeats the purpose of CC for those who can and do… and that would likely be those we’d most wish to have not notice anything.

  5. Ellendra
    Ellendra April 26, 2012 10:04 am

    Vests, vests, and more vests. I wonder if there’s enough of a market for pretty (not just plain) CC-vests that I should warm up my sewing machine again?

  6. Ellendra
    Ellendra April 26, 2012 10:12 am

    @MamaLiberty: Yeah, the “lump” is a fashion design challenge, especialy for those of us with curves. I pretty much can’t do a belt or waistline carry, because my curves push the gun out the wrong way. I’m working on one that puts the gun right in the middle of the small of my back, because for me that feels the most comfortable, and with the right padding the only visible difference would be to make my back look straighter. Ankle or shoulder carry works as long as the weather cooperates.

  7. NTIsurvivor
    NTIsurvivor April 26, 2012 10:29 am

    I’ve known quite a few people who have worn CCC vests. In spite of the special features to accommodate pocket carry no one I know has actually carried that way. The vests are well designed to conceal waistband and shoulder holster carry. Pocket carry, to me, is one of those things you do when you can’t carry a real gun. A mouse gun will fit in a pocket pretty well without causing a lot of sag but anything more serious is likely to print badly even in well designed clothing. In the end you do what you have to do in the circumstances you find yourself.

    Effective on body concealed carry for curvy fashionably dressed women is very difficult. I’m glad I’m a shovel jawed hairy chested testosterone soaked macho man with no fashion sense whatsoever. /grin/

  8. naturegirl
    naturegirl April 26, 2012 12:16 pm

    “I’m glad I’m a shovel jawed hairy chested testosterone soaked macho man with no fashion sense whatsoever. /grin/”


    That reminds me of my “aww THAT’S SO COOL” reaction to Sonny Crockett’s Galco custom holster…..never mind the pastels-fashion that everyone else raved about, I wished I could wear THAT….

  9. MamaLiberty
    MamaLiberty April 27, 2012 9:37 am

    Ellendra… you might want to seriously rethink the small of the back carry idea.

    Just imagine that lump of metal smashing into your spine – from any of a large assortments of accidents or intentional actions. If you are knocked down, or smashed against a wall or other solid object, it’s going to HURT, at the very least. And there are documented cases where spinal injury has happened.

    And, with your back mashed against a wall, or the sidewalk… see if you could still draw that gun effectively or rapidly – if at all. Bet you can’t.

    I’ve been through tactical classes where we tried this, and many other carry options, under dozens of conditions. Small of the back carry was always determined to be the worst, and most dangerous.

    Just a thought… πŸ™‚

  10. Ellendra
    Ellendra April 27, 2012 11:15 am

    @MamaL: I was actually thinking of building it into a back brace, since I have to wear one so often anyway. But drawing when against a wal is still a problem I’m working on. Although it seems a lot of carry positions are hard to draw from when pressed against a wall, because it’s not just your back that they’re holding.

  11. MamaLiberty
    MamaLiberty April 28, 2012 10:41 am

    There are indeed no perfect cc options for ease of draw. There simply are a few at the bottom of that imperfect list. πŸ™‚ Just one of the reasons I carry openly most of the time.

    That way the scum can have the opportunity to decide if they REALLY want to take a chance on attacking an old lady crazy enough to open carry a .357magnum!!

    So far, so good.

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