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  1. bumperwack
    bumperwack June 25, 2012 6:24 am

    Monkeywrench. Girl is lucky, real lucky, that the po-po actually did their jobs…normally, that case is a slam dunk.

  2. Kevin Wilmeth
    Kevin Wilmeth June 25, 2012 7:40 am

    In re Mr. Suarez: let’s see if I’ve got this right:

    – Resistance is futile.
    – If a SWAT team is sent to get you, you obviously deserved it.
    – If SWAT becomes a problem in your area, move. Or get more money.

    Yeah, it doesn’t get a lot clearer than that.

    Here’s what stands out at me most, though. Here are the words of a man who has–for a long time now–been supplied with tax-funded guns, ammunition, training, orders to use same, and almost absolute de facto immunity against whatever he may do with them. He can probably “legally” carry whatever piece(s) he wants, anywhere, any time, for any reason, and he does not have to hesitate for a nanosecond upon the ethics of whatever fight he brings–his conscience is governed only by his orders. He offers a dismissive token of support for the idea of resisting an “unlawful” assault by a badged attacker, but completely ignores treating that as a serious matter in favor of reminding us that if you are targeted for takedown, either a) you deserved it or b) you are too stupid to have avoided it.

    His words?

    “I deal in reality friend.”

    Again: yeah, that message is coming through with crystal clarity.

  3. Kent McManigal
    Kent McManigal June 25, 2012 8:39 am

    Suarez is a reaver. He says “When you have a nice home in a nice ‘hood, your wife will love you more, and you won’t care about Indiana laws, or SWAT, or any of that Concord Bridge Tin Foliery. You will be too busy enjoying your life to care. Get the picture?

    He really believes that I wouldn’t care that his kind are out there murdering innocent people as long as it isn’t in MY neighborhood? Or, is that just how shallow HE is? I can honestly say I am happy when truly disgusting parasites like him expose themselves so thoroughly. This way I can rejoice when he gets “Indiana’ed”.

  4. bumperwack
    bumperwack June 25, 2012 8:57 am

    “You’ll be to busy enjoying life to care”….yeah. Till the door comes off and the flashbangs start flying…wrong house, bogus tip, pissed off the wrong punk-assed bitch, local PD needs some “dynamic entry” footage, whatever ..
    .

  5. Scott
    Scott June 25, 2012 9:16 am

    That Suarez guy-charmer,ain’t he? Reaver..that bring the reavers from Firefly to mind.
    On cellulosic ethanol-why not ask them if aether or phlogiston is a reasonable substitue?

  6. jc2k
    jc2k June 25, 2012 10:47 am

    Gabe Suarez is obviously a douche-bag.

  7. Hal Kymist
    Hal Kymist June 25, 2012 10:56 am

    Left a comment for Mr. Suarez. He only put up the first of four paragraphs. Not only is he a jackboot, he is a lying coward. (Redundant?) Yes, lying, because by putting up only part of the comment without explaining why, he is lying by omission. Yes, coward, because he didn’t post the full comment or respond to my challenge.

  8. EN
    EN June 25, 2012 11:06 am

    Suarez is an all around bad guy who got caught milking the system with the Santa Monica PD. He’s a felon and I’m still not sure how he gets to own and use firearms. As for his school, some of his training is cartoonish. There’s a lot of good training schools out there and his self-promotion has kept him afloat so far but I would not be giving him any money up front for a class.

    As for his “thoughts” on the subject of SWAT LOVE for citizens, we’re all running out of places to hide, even the rich will soon be targets of the Obama Administration. And in line with his practicality, why would the cash strapped police of the future concentrate on poor areas when there’s a bounty of rich law breakers (everyone knows the rich got theirs by stealing what’s rightfully government money). Eventually there’s nowhere to hide, and we’re very close to that now. Wait and see what happens during Obama’s second term. Does anyone believe for one second that as long as you walk the straight and narrow (as defined by who???) Law Enforcement will leave you alone? Underneath his projected image of hard bitten realism we have an extremely silly man… who’s armed.

  9. bumperwack
    bumperwack June 25, 2012 11:47 am

    SWAT LOVE….I love it! Hope you don’t mind if I use that…sounds more “caring” than SWATTING.

  10. EN
    EN June 25, 2012 12:25 pm

    Use it, but only for good. 😉

  11. Grenadier1
    Grenadier1 June 25, 2012 12:29 pm

    Suarez is not a felon. Stop spreading that BS. He pled to mis. charges and holds a class 3 manufactures license (they dont give those to felons).
    He is not SWAT all he did in this article is tell you how SWAT thinks not how HE thinks.
    What he is telling you is stop worrying about things you dont have any control over. Do you get up every morning and think “jesus I hope I dont get SWAT raided today”? Some people in the freedom community do and its seriously negative and debilitating thinking.
    Worry about the things you have influence over “god,family and tribe” as he puts it on his site.
    On a good day your rights are secured by gold, on a bad day by brass.
    Why is that so contraversial?

  12. Claire
    Claire June 25, 2012 12:42 pm

    “Why is that so contraversial?”

    Um … because Suarez isn’t actually saying what you think he’s saying? Because he’s actually saying that it’s perfectly okay for SWAT teams to regard other Americans an “the enemy” to be beaten at all cost? Because he’s actually saying that wrong-house raids and military-style overkill are acceptable as long as the victims live in poor neighborhoods? Because he has zero sympathy for or understanding of people who may have no choice but to live in those neighborhoods? Because he’s declaring all this horrible, unAmerican, anti-Bill-of-Rights stuff in the name of Jesus (see his sig line)? Because despite what you claim he most certainly IS telling us how he thinks?

    True (as far as I know), Suarez pleaded guilty only to misdemeanors after being charged with felonies. People can google and decide for themselves what he is or isn’t guilty of. But by his own words, he’s surely guilty of being a pig — in both the cop sense and the Animal Farm sense — with apologies to actual, useful pigs that at least provide nourishing food.

  13. bumperwack
    bumperwack June 25, 2012 1:21 pm

    He said something about right or wrong not being relevant. Its in fact the crux of the matter.

  14. Matt, another
    Matt, another June 25, 2012 1:42 pm

    Saurez post on Indiana’s law is a good view of the us and them mentality. It also shows the lack of reality that SWAT lives in. Those ten guys are succesful because they rely on suprise, overwhelming force, shoot first, kill anyone not already prone etc. They have never faced a determined foe that can fight as a unit from prepared defenses or from mobile positions. I’d wager that if something did not go according to rehearsal they would soon fall apart.

    A better article would be how to harden your house to make it difficult for SWAT, or non-uniformed home invaders to break in. Steel doors and frames, Barred windows, grenade barriers on windows, entry ways that force invaders to split up or access one at a time, layered doorways etc.

  15. NMC_EXP
    NMC_EXP June 25, 2012 3:11 pm

    “Suarez is a reaver”…..Apt comparison.

    When I linked to his article, the title of his blog “Warriortalk” prejudiced me regarding what I would read, and that prejudice was justified.

    More Carl Dregas in our future.

    Regards

    Jim

  16. JS
    JS June 25, 2012 4:28 pm

    Mr. Suarez will have some splainin’ to do at the Pearly Gates. I pray he realizes the destructive, authority-driven message he perpetuates.

  17. jed
    jed June 25, 2012 5:42 pm

    > this isn’t going to turn out well?

    Even before the previous commenters mentioned Reavers, what I thought of was the “Pax” experiment on Miranda. Dagnabit, I couldn’t find, on YouTube, a clip of that final recorded message.

    I don’t believe in Divine Justice. But when I read things such as that written by Suarez, it does make me wish for such. His hell would be that he is the subject of a no-knock, die horribly, and be restored to live it all over again; lather, rinse, repeat.

  18. Soullight
    Soullight June 25, 2012 8:11 pm

    Suarez was originally charged with Workers Compensation fraud, money laundering and grand theft and served a year-long jail sentence. He entered into a plea deal in which the workers comp charge and conspiracy charges were dropped. It seems that Suarez had the good old slip and fall incident at the station and then kept working and laundering money and grand theft. So he is a slip and fall con man who dodged the felonies in a plea deal. The charges speak for themselves as does his attitude to us cattle for the slaughter. No wonder he has the bad attitude, he is a corrupt cop who supports corrupt cops. Anyone who approves of him is just as guilty.

  19. clark
    clark June 25, 2012 8:40 pm

    Reavers and clovers, what a pair they all make.
    Why sometimes they are one and the same.

    EN asked, “Does anyone believe for one second that as long as you walk the straight and narrow… Law Enforcement will leave you alone?”

    Millions of People do, EN. They are called clovers:

    From Urban Dictionary:

    3. Clover

    1. A person that believes all laws are made for the common good, and that all laws have to be followed. Clovers generally believe that if someone does something that irritates them in some way that a law should be made to correct the problem – “There ought to be a law”. A Clover will always side with the police or the government no matter what egregious evil they have committed.
    Clovers believe that they are always doing the right thing, and therefore everyone should wait on them, or are basically oblivious to others’ needs.
    2. A person that is generally afraid, overly safe, and obeys all rules, and thinks others should too, especially as related to driving:
    Clovers will wait for the left turn signal arrow even when left on green is allowed, and/or will not pull into the intersection, so that they will be able to turn left after the approaching traffic has cleared or stopped.
    Clovers wait for a green light even when right on red is allowed.
    Clovers need two lanes to pass a bicycle.
    Clovers apply brakes at random.
    Clovers never use their rear view mirrors, because others should have to wait on them.
    Clovers stop when they are in the acceleration lane.
    Clovers slow for school zones even when school is out.
    Clovers refuse to move right for faster-moving traffic.
    Clovers have an obnoxious, passive-aggressive determination to force everyone else to drive slowly, too,
    Clovers will drive the speed limit in the left-hand lane.
    Clovers believe the government is always right.
    Clovers believe that if someone is simply investigated and/or arrested for a crime then that person must be guilty.
    Clovers believe the TSA makes us safe.
    Clovers believe the government is here to help us.
    Clovers generally work for the government.

    A bit more on the clover mindset:

    “We the Fascist Clovers of the United Colonial States will not only fail to encourage this liberalization, but instead, pretend it isn’t happening so as to build up a new permanent form of socialism at home.”
    From – ericpetersautos.com
    only-a-clover-likes-ike

    “Between these cinderblock walls, we are all expected to be the same. We are trained to ace every standardized test, and those who deviate and see light through a different lens are worthless to the scheme of public education, and therefore viewed with contempt.”

    From – ericpetersautos.com
    how-clovers-are-made-and-possibly-not-born

  20. bumperwack
    bumperwack June 25, 2012 10:11 pm

    Damn…

  21. Grenadier1
    Grenadier1 June 26, 2012 7:01 am

    Sorry Claire thats just not how I am reading it. Maybe its because I have read enough of Suarez’s post on Warrior talk to understand what he is saying and recognize the implied message there or maybe its because it echos exactly what I think about the situation but I am reading it from a different perspective.

    I dont like the situation anymore than anyone else but it is the reality we currently live in. If you get on the radar or get mistaken for someone else then your on the path to trouble. When the SWAT team is sent out (and they will be, they have budgets to justify) then unless you get some form of prior warning you are in trouble. 1 in 100 raids could end with you shooting it out and surviving but most are going to end with you getting hauled off in your underwear at 3:00 AM. If they show up then the battle has changed terrain. Its now Lawfare for you and those odds are not good either. Most patriot types bristle at someone telling them they are not going out in a blaze of glory but think back real hard over the last 20 years and you can count on one hand the number that actually DID! Folks can thump their chests all they want but when the stack hits your porch you will get hauled off just like every person they have hauled off in the past. Its not right in fact its as not right as it can be but it IS.
    Suarez gives you a good list of how to minimize the risk of being a target. Surprise its the same list as how to minimize being a target of any other street gang in the US. Stay out of their normal area of operations. Avoid disorder and what the government has deemed illegal activity. Not 100% effective but a good start.
    If I tell you how to avoid getting picked off by the ATF in the gun community I would tell you much the same thing. Dont try and skirt the NFA. Is the NFA right? Nope but its what they have deemed to be illegal and if you want to avoid doing time for NFA violations then dont try and skirt it. Dont try and modify semi autos or build full autos or suppressors. Dont cut down shotguns or rifles. Dont SBR pistols. Dont do any of these things without the paperwork. Thats real easy to do. Is it 100% proof against an NFA charge? NO its not, because the ATF has and will drum those charges up against some people. You and I cant control what the ATF does so we cant worry about that every day of our lives and let it destroy us. All we can do is make sure we dont become the nail that gets hammered down.

    None of that precludes you from going so far below the radar you disappear.

  22. Pat
    Pat June 26, 2012 7:52 am

    In other words, Shut up and do what you’re told? Sounds like we’re No. 6 (The Prisoner).

    If we don’t fight Wrong, who will be left to do Right? That’s how sheep are made.
    And… to take it to its logical conclusion, http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Martin_Niem%C3%B6ller

    “When the Nazis came for the communists,
    I remained silent;
    I was not a communist.

    When they locked up the social democrats,
    I remained silent;
    I was not a social democrat.

    When they came for the trade unionists,
    I did not speak out;
    I was not a trade unionist.

    When they came for the Jews,
    I remained silent;
    I wasn’t a Jew.

    When they came for me,
    there was no one left to speak out.”

  23. Grenader1
    Grenader1 June 26, 2012 10:04 am

    NO Pat thats not it at all.
    Apparently we have a thinking outside of the box problem in the FREEFOR community.

    Think this through

    There are two fronts the tactical street level and the legal system.
    Now think of each of those fronts as a spectrum. At one end THEY dominate, at the other YOU do.
    How do you achieve domination on both of those fronts?
    On the street THEY have numbers, advance communications, command and control, and intel. You have……
    In the courts they have huge supplies of cash to fund the process, they have the ability to incarcerate you while they build their case, they have the judge to control what the jury hears, they have the media to control what the public hears. You have…….
    So how do you acheive at least a balance on those spectrums? You need what they have. You need numbers. you need guns and you need cash (or something of value). If you dont have those then you lay low until you do. You can always not do that, you can always take the other path and confront them head long. The odds are just not in your favor. If you do this and the end results are you die in a firey house fire do you think you will have achieved anything? Do you think you will have convinced the mass of the American public that you were right and an innocent victim of government oppression? Recall I said they had the media? When its said and done you will be a child porngrapher with a cocain distribution network. They will take everything you had as loot and your family will be lucky to bury your ashes in a cardboard box. The Patriot community will look on from their couch and fester with impotent rage and swear that it would happen differently if it happened to them.

  24. Claire
    Claire June 26, 2012 10:14 am

    Grenadier — What you are saying makes some sense (when considering only “street-level” behavior). But as I re-read Suarez’s words and read yours, he and you aren’t saying the same thing at all.

  25. Pat
    Pat June 26, 2012 11:49 am

    Grenadier, I understand what you’re saying. I do. But…

    First of all, my purpose is not to convince “the American public” of anything, so what they think is irrelevant. The media will write what they want, the public will believe what they choose (based on a weak and misconceived idea of what society is and how The Powers That Be should act).

    Secondly, I consider the street and legal spectra (pl.) to be one front. There is no room for me to “dominate”, nor is that my intent. (Your choice of words is revealing. *They* are the dominators, that is _their sole purpose._ Mine is to live in peace. In a court run by honest folk I would hope only to achieve justice, and then accept the verdict. The idea of “winning and losing” a case is the dominator’s language, not based on truth and fairness, but on control. If I collect cash, guns, etc, it will be for my own self-defense, not to “dominate” others.)

    In fact we do “lie low” every day, we compromise our position in society every week (though not necessarily our principles). We are/should be alert to what’s going on around us to keep ourselves under the radar and out of the eye of the dominating spectra.

    But when there comes a day that certain principles might be compromised – and I leave it to everyone to determine which principles apply to their own lives – then, yes, I WILL go out in a blaze of glory if necessary. It will be worth it, and I will not be afraid to die. It would be nice to think that others were willing to stand with me, but I have no right to ask that of them.

  26. Grenader1
    Grenader1 June 26, 2012 12:22 pm

    Pat
    let me clarify my use of “Dominate”.
    Poor choice of words on my part I admit. At their end of the spectra they intend to dominate. At our end yes we just intend to deter. Be so capable that they will not think of messing with you in either field

  27. Matt, another
    Matt, another June 26, 2012 1:23 pm

    No matter how much word-spackle is applied, Saurez is still a putz.

  28. clark
    clark June 27, 2012 7:51 pm

    Ha, nice ending, Matt, another.

  29. clark
    clark June 27, 2012 11:12 pm

    And the beat goes on…

    Or should I say, “to keep re-read more about this chain of thought, see this:”

    http://www.freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2012/06/showtime-syndrome-in-evansville-online.html

    It’s like Part I of a never ending saga.

    “We have a document – a checklist – that we review. We fill in the blanks, and every answer has a score associated with it. Is the suspect a known offender? [Boot to the face.] Was it a violent offense? [Boot to the face.] Did he resist arrest? [Boot to the face.] Is there drug trafficking in the area? [Boot to the face.] The scores are tallied up and the threat is placed in an appropriate range of responses.”

    Ah, the Threat Matrix.
    Worse than the Twilight Zone.
    Because it’s real, and you’re the star.
    Or you’re a two bit red-shirt in the background.
    Either way, same thing. sometimes.

  30. Victor Milán
    Victor Milán June 29, 2012 5:10 pm

    While I admit the Suarez SWAT horse is best left to decompose in peace, a thought just hit me hard.

    All the arguments he applies to SWAT attacks apply to (non-governmental) violent crime as well.

    Therefore:

    1) The excuses he gives cops necessarily apply to criminals as well. It’s always the victim’s fault.

    2) His clients are either criminals themselves, or paying him for high-ticket paintball training.

  31. winston
    winston July 1, 2012 7:26 pm

    It’s an unfortunate reality that to participate in some of the better, more professional tactical schools out there you’ll probably have to listen to some ‘only ones’ bullshit. Suarez talks more shit than probably anyone else, however, and is neither professional or from what I’ve seen, all that great of an instructor.

    ALWAYS the friggin cops that you hear that garbage from. Say what you want about us grunts but you will pretty much NEVER hear a soldier or Marine with that sort of an opinion…it’s always some douchebag cop with no life.

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