A few more of these, and the local ruling class will be developing a little bit of reluctance to screw with people.
I noticed the guy was 59 and living in his car. It’s dangerous to reduce someone to the point of having nothing left to lose…
Jim B.August 7, 2013 9:21 pm
Now that they have someone that’s alive, who wants to bet they’ll be dragging this guy around as the face of “gun nuts”?
Think they’ll “make an example” of him?
No lawyer would bring forth a civil lawsuit due to the fact that the guy don’t have any money to pay for them.
IndividualAudienceMemberAugust 7, 2013 10:45 pm
“who wants to bet they’ll be dragging this guy around as the face of “gun nuts”?…”
I bet they won’t for the most part, it would shine a light on how gooberment steals and steps on the common man, in a way the common man can relate to, which is what ‘they’ don’t want: the common man relating.
He’s just a long line of many, to fill a short bit of time on the TV, until the next thing comes along. … It’s the ‘adding up’ that ‘they’ want to showcase? But only peripherally. …Can’t have anybody focusing.
We are in this weird moment in-between…
IamJBWAugust 8, 2013 5:39 am
This all happened about 50 miles away from me. I am saddened but not really surprised. I would differentiate him from Carl Drega in one distinct detail in that Carl’s victims were very specifically chosen at first and this guy was blindly shooting though a wall. Either way they were harassing him over “living in a shed”, “using a bucket” and managing a stream that ran through his property with a culvert. Sounds to me like he could have been any homesteader type with a tiny off-grid cabin, working on a composing toilet system and mitigating stream erosion. I would like this to go down in history as a lesson about respecting property rights but more than likely it will be used as an example to encourage more firearms legislation or as an excuse to apply for a grant to buy a Lenco Bearcat.
LairdAugust 8, 2013 8:47 am
It’s not clear who the people he killed were. Were they random citizens or were they government officials? Anybody know?
Matt, anotherAugust 8, 2013 11:26 am
Hmmm, I would bet that was a “Gun Free Zone,” without armed guards present.
I don’t agree with his tactics (blinldy shoot into walls, possibly hitting other government victims), but I do understand the sentiment. The Government should not be allowed to take a person’s property. When the government can take your property, for any reason, you are not a free person in a free society.
cave horseAugust 8, 2013 2:44 pm
Obvious false flag is obvious. There’s no way in hell this guy wasn’t a deliberate psyops plant.
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On his Facebook page, Newell said he voted for President Barack Obama but was upset with his administration, citing the President’s failure to close down Guantanamo Bay and the continuing federal crack down on medical marijuana. He also posted an image on his page in support of the Second Amendment, along with a lengthy note opposing gun control. On his Twitter page, he tweeted in support of a petition to “eliminate armed guards for the President, Vice-President, and their families, and establish Gun Free Zones around them.”
In a comment at Mother Jones last year, Newell wrote: “if you bring an AR15 to a public meeting & parade around with it you should go to jail I believe in the second amendment, but there is a difference between the second amendment & terrorizing people!”
**
TomAugust 8, 2013 4:53 pm
Sorry off subject but probably needs to be shared
—- From lavabit.com
Lavabit
My Fellow Users,
I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations. I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on–the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.
What’s going to happen now? We’ve already started preparing the paperwork needed to continue to fight for the Constitution in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. A favorable decision would allow me resurrect Lavabit as an American company.
This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States.
Sincerely,
Ladar Levison
Owner and Operator, Lavabit LLC
Defending the constitution is expensive! Help us by donating to the Lavabit Legal Defense Fund here.
Well, if this isn’t proof that we’re living under an anti-American tyranny, I’m not sure would be:
“I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on–the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.”
Again, I’m reminded of the early scenes from the novel, The Moon is Down.
A few more of these, and the local ruling class will be developing a little bit of reluctance to screw with people.
I noticed the guy was 59 and living in his car. It’s dangerous to reduce someone to the point of having nothing left to lose…
Now that they have someone that’s alive, who wants to bet they’ll be dragging this guy around as the face of “gun nuts”?
Think they’ll “make an example” of him?
No lawyer would bring forth a civil lawsuit due to the fact that the guy don’t have any money to pay for them.
“who wants to bet they’ll be dragging this guy around as the face of “gun nuts”?…”
I bet they won’t for the most part, it would shine a light on how gooberment steals and steps on the common man, in a way the common man can relate to, which is what ‘they’ don’t want: the common man relating.
He’s just a long line of many, to fill a short bit of time on the TV, until the next thing comes along. … It’s the ‘adding up’ that ‘they’ want to showcase? But only peripherally. …Can’t have anybody focusing.
We are in this weird moment in-between…
This all happened about 50 miles away from me. I am saddened but not really surprised. I would differentiate him from Carl Drega in one distinct detail in that Carl’s victims were very specifically chosen at first and this guy was blindly shooting though a wall. Either way they were harassing him over “living in a shed”, “using a bucket” and managing a stream that ran through his property with a culvert. Sounds to me like he could have been any homesteader type with a tiny off-grid cabin, working on a composing toilet system and mitigating stream erosion. I would like this to go down in history as a lesson about respecting property rights but more than likely it will be used as an example to encourage more firearms legislation or as an excuse to apply for a grant to buy a Lenco Bearcat.
It’s not clear who the people he killed were. Were they random citizens or were they government officials? Anybody know?
Hmmm, I would bet that was a “Gun Free Zone,” without armed guards present.
I don’t agree with his tactics (blinldy shoot into walls, possibly hitting other government victims), but I do understand the sentiment. The Government should not be allowed to take a person’s property. When the government can take your property, for any reason, you are not a free person in a free society.
Obvious false flag is obvious. There’s no way in hell this guy wasn’t a deliberate psyops plant.
**
On his Facebook page, Newell said he voted for President Barack Obama but was upset with his administration, citing the President’s failure to close down Guantanamo Bay and the continuing federal crack down on medical marijuana. He also posted an image on his page in support of the Second Amendment, along with a lengthy note opposing gun control. On his Twitter page, he tweeted in support of a petition to “eliminate armed guards for the President, Vice-President, and their families, and establish Gun Free Zones around them.”
In a comment at Mother Jones last year, Newell wrote: “if you bring an AR15 to a public meeting & parade around with it you should go to jail I believe in the second amendment, but there is a difference between the second amendment & terrorizing people!”
**
Sorry off subject but probably needs to be shared
—- From lavabit.com
Lavabit
My Fellow Users,
I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations. I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on–the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.
What’s going to happen now? We’ve already started preparing the paperwork needed to continue to fight for the Constitution in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. A favorable decision would allow me resurrect Lavabit as an American company.
This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States.
Sincerely,
Ladar Levison
Owner and Operator, Lavabit LLC
Defending the constitution is expensive! Help us by donating to the Lavabit Legal Defense Fund here.
Tom — Now that’s courage.
I wonder if his decision has anything to do with the feds going nuts over this? http://www.businessinsider.com/meet-lavabit-edward-snowdens-email-2013-7
Well, if this isn’t proof that we’re living under an anti-American tyranny, I’m not sure would be:
“I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on–the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.”
Again, I’m reminded of the early scenes from the novel, The Moon is Down.
Just great…another phony “case study” for the gun grabbers to proselytize about so they can reinforce their trickery by convincing my neighbors that I’m wrong for taking self-defense seriously (https://thelastbastille.wordpress.com/2012/11/02/serious-self-defense/).
Claire, did you catch this bit about the gun control playbook?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323477604579000731721030424.html?mod=djemBestOfTheWeb_h
http://www.examiner.com/article/there-is-a-gun-control-playbook-versus-washington-gun-owners
Cynical manipulation… I think Mencken called this “boob-bumping”.