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  1. Paul Bonneau
    Paul Bonneau June 8, 2015 6:59 am

    Ugh, that piece on Beau Biden made me gag.

    The US government has always been in the business of creating terrorists. How better to justify their existence?

  2. Claire
    Claire June 8, 2015 8:16 am

    “Ugh, that piece on Beau Biden made me gag.”

    Yep. That little girly journalist was practically humping her own leg with her enthusiasm over politicians. And over some nobody who’d never have even been heard of if not for his connection to one of the country’s most inexplicably successful officials.

  3. Karen
    Karen June 8, 2015 12:40 pm

    “That little girly journalist was practically humping her own leg with her enthusiasm over politicians.”

    OMG. I snorted coffee on the dog and tears of laughter ran down my leg with that funny mental image.

  4. Dana
    Dana June 8, 2015 4:34 pm

    Egads. The G650 story is disgusting. If this doesn’t repudiate the “name it and claim it” false doctrine of prosperity theology, I’m not sure what does. These guys seem to think that God is the Federal Reserve, subject to their personal whims and desires, and that Christian believers are not supposed to suffer hardship. (c.f. Job)

  5. Claire
    Claire June 8, 2015 5:14 pm

    Egads, indeed, Dana.

    And of course it’s sheer coincidence that one of the biggest tenets of prosperity theology is (wink, wink, nod, nod) “giving.” Not giving as you do. But giving to the guys who “need” the Gulfstream jets. And the Rolls Royces. And the hot girlfriends.

  6. Paul Bonneau
    Paul Bonneau June 9, 2015 7:20 am

    That story reminds me of the Bhagwan, with his 93 Rolls Royces:

    Antelope is a sleepy little town; I have driven through it several times (no storefront businesses). That incident brought out the escalating worst in both sides, but the anti-Bhagwan folks used government to drive him out so in the end I consider their actions worse, definitely a violation of “MYOB”…

  7. Paul Bonneau
    Paul Bonneau June 9, 2015 10:27 am

    Claire, that was part of the escalation – *after* the anti-Bhagwan folks enlisted government in their cause. Would never have happened if they hadn’t started it. Anyway it was not Rajneeshees who did it, but a few particular individuals, esp Ma Anand Sheela. Read the wiki account:

  8. Claire
    Claire June 9, 2015 10:37 am

    I’ve read the Wikipedia account. I know that Ma Anand Sheela was the chief culprit (at least as targeted by the justice system). But it’s still far from conclusive that Rajneesh was uninvolved. In any case, he was the leader, was close to Sheela, and had reason to know what was going on.

    Doesn’t matter one bit whether they started poisoning innocent people before or after the government got involved.

  9. Paul Bonneau
    Paul Bonneau June 9, 2015 10:42 am

    Also for more detail see this:
    (link looks the same, but it’s not)

    One has to ask why these folks were trying to influence the election, after all… The anti-Bhagwan folks were depending on Oregon land use law to make life difficult for the Rajneeshees. This is amusing since people in that part of Oregon are typically hugely opposed to land use law (and for good reason).

    I suppose this must be one of the most inventive ways to influence an election that I have ever heard of. 🙂

  10. MamaLiberty
    MamaLiberty June 9, 2015 10:44 am

    That was the same “Bhagwan” who later contracted to purchase a very nice old “dude ranch” in the desert where I lived. He and the remnants of his harem and followers moved in, and promptly proceeded to trash the place, then repudiated the contract and left. The owner was a friend and I went out there several times with her after they were gone. She was in her late 80s and had decided she couldn’t keep the ranch. It had not been in operation for several years and she knew it would deteriorate fast unless someone took good care of it. She was a trusting old soul, and just never saw the train wreck coming.

    Many of the buildings and facilities, lovingly tended and upgraded throughout many years, were so badly damaged that they had to be torn down. She lost nearly a million dollars in the deal over all, and didn’t have the money to restore it. After years of fruitless litigation, she sold it to a developer… who promptly went bankrupt. That was still going through the courts when she died, and I don’t remember what happened to it after that. I just remember that it was a hopeless wreck, and that the cost of just removing the debris was more than anyone was willing to spend.

    These people are a cancer, parasites. I actually met the Bhagwan fleetingly once in the early days of this fiasco. I felt as if I would need to shower continuously for a week just to feel clean again.

    So, no, I don’t suppose that any government action on such things would be much worse than what this monster did.

  11. Paul Bonneau
    Paul Bonneau June 9, 2015 10:47 am

    Please don’t read my comments as excusing what Sheela did. But this whole thing neatly demonstrates what is behind seemingly harmless government regulation. It’s always force and violence. What’s unusual here is that Sheela actually decided not to submit. Too bad she did not restrict her responding violence to the actual attackers.

    It also brings up a point about the culpability of voters in government violence, although certainly not every voter in The Dalles would have voted to impose on the Rajneeshees.

  12. Paul Bonneau
    Paul Bonneau June 9, 2015 12:38 pm

    I found an excellent and very readable in-depth investigation of this incident, well worth the time for anyone interested in the problem of governance:

    Here is one quote from it:
    Ranchers and retirees
    in small central Oregon communities, who normally com-
    plained long and loud about interference with private prop-
    erty rights, found themselves applauding the effort of Wasco
    County to enforce building permit requirements and turned
    the county planners into something of local heroes.

    Oh well, the last thing the human race can be accused of is consistency! 🙂

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