This is a hard one. Jews have always fought for their beliefs and their right to exist (wherever they choose, for good or bad). But as a religion they have generally followed their leaders/rabbis, etc. and done what they were told was the correct thing to do. And I think they have often, at least where they were outnumbered, followed their country’s laws in order not to make waves. So overall, I tend to think there is some no gun-owning tradition, their religion, and (in America at least) identifying with the upper crust attitude. “Other” is the best I could do.
LairdOctober 28, 2015 8:54 am
Not being a Jew, I have no idea. You would think that with memories of the Holocaust being as fresh as they are (many US Jews are only one or two generations removed from it, and have personal family histories about it) they would realize that much of that could have been prevented had Hitler not disarmed them first. But they don’t seem to learn. A general human failing, no doubt.
A related question is why are so many Jews are reliable (and unthinking) Democratic voters? Entrepreneurship seems to run in their blood, and Democrats are largely anti-business (as well as being anti-Israel), yet still they remain in what can only be described as an abusive relationship. Curious, no?
I have no answers.
LarryAOctober 28, 2015 12:20 pm
1 Samuel 8
Now it came to pass when Samuel was old that he made his sons judges over Israel. The name of his firstborn was Joel, and the name of his second, Abijah; they were judges in Beersheba. But his sons did not walk in his ways; they turned aside after dishonest gain, took bribes, and perverted justice.
Then all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah, and said to him, “Look, you are old, and your sons do not walk in your ways. Now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.”
But the thing displeased Samuel when they said, “Give us a king to judge us.” So Samuel prayed to the LORD. And the LORD said to Samuel, “Heed the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them. According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt, even to this day—with which they have forsaken Me and served other gods—so they are doing to you also. Now therefore, heed their voice. However, you shall solemnly forewarn them, and show them the behavior of the king who will reign over them.”
So Samuel told all the words of the LORD to the people who asked him for a king. And he said, “This will be the behavior of the king who will reign over you: He will take your sons and appoint them for his own chariots and to be his horsemen, and some will run before his chariots. He will appoint captains over his thousands and captains over his fifties, will set some to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and some to make his weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. He will take your daughters to be perfumers, cooks, and bakers. And he will take the best of your fields, your vineyards, and your olive groves, and give them to his servants. He will take a tenth of your grain and your vintage, and give it to his officers and servants. And he will take your male servants, your female servants, your finest young men, and your donkeys, and put them to his work. He will take a tenth of your sheep. And you will be his servants. And you will cry out in that day because of your king whom you have chosen for yourselves, and the LORD will not hear you in that day.”
Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, “No, but we will have a king over us, that we also may be like all the nations, and that our king may judge us and go out before us and fight our battles.”
And Samuel heard all the words of the people, and he repeated them in the hearing of the LORD. So the LORD said to Samuel, “Heed their voice, and make them a king.”
And Samuel said to the men of Israel, “Every man go to his city.”
FelinenationOctober 28, 2015 1:09 pm
I chose “other” – but there was insufficient space to fully explain it – so here goes.
I have observed that most Jews are politically, liberals. And it is part of the liberal party line to be anti-gun.
That’s the only explanation I can figure. I have also often wondered why so many Jews are anti-gun.
KarenOctober 28, 2015 2:58 pm
I think there could have been one more category, “Most of the above”.
BobOctober 28, 2015 3:46 pm
Jews in Israel are not anti gun. They well understand that their very existence depends on their own ability to defend themselves. Jews here (and other places) think their survival depends on being accepted into the establishment and have swallowed whole the liberal establishment line.
That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
Paul BonneauOctober 28, 2015 4:17 pm
[But they don’t seem to learn. A general human failing, no doubt.]
Yep.
“There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.”
— Will Rogers
LairdOctober 29, 2015 9:59 am
LarryA, if there was a point to that long, tedious Bible quote I missed it.
This is a hard one. Jews have always fought for their beliefs and their right to exist (wherever they choose, for good or bad). But as a religion they have generally followed their leaders/rabbis, etc. and done what they were told was the correct thing to do. And I think they have often, at least where they were outnumbered, followed their country’s laws in order not to make waves. So overall, I tend to think there is some no gun-owning tradition, their religion, and (in America at least) identifying with the upper crust attitude. “Other” is the best I could do.
Not being a Jew, I have no idea. You would think that with memories of the Holocaust being as fresh as they are (many US Jews are only one or two generations removed from it, and have personal family histories about it) they would realize that much of that could have been prevented had Hitler not disarmed them first. But they don’t seem to learn. A general human failing, no doubt.
A related question is why are so many Jews are reliable (and unthinking) Democratic voters? Entrepreneurship seems to run in their blood, and Democrats are largely anti-business (as well as being anti-Israel), yet still they remain in what can only be described as an abusive relationship. Curious, no?
I have no answers.
1 Samuel 8
Now it came to pass when Samuel was old that he made his sons judges over Israel. The name of his firstborn was Joel, and the name of his second, Abijah; they were judges in Beersheba. But his sons did not walk in his ways; they turned aside after dishonest gain, took bribes, and perverted justice.
Then all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah, and said to him, “Look, you are old, and your sons do not walk in your ways. Now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.”
But the thing displeased Samuel when they said, “Give us a king to judge us.” So Samuel prayed to the LORD. And the LORD said to Samuel, “Heed the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them. According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt, even to this day—with which they have forsaken Me and served other gods—so they are doing to you also. Now therefore, heed their voice. However, you shall solemnly forewarn them, and show them the behavior of the king who will reign over them.”
So Samuel told all the words of the LORD to the people who asked him for a king. And he said, “This will be the behavior of the king who will reign over you: He will take your sons and appoint them for his own chariots and to be his horsemen, and some will run before his chariots. He will appoint captains over his thousands and captains over his fifties, will set some to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and some to make his weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. He will take your daughters to be perfumers, cooks, and bakers. And he will take the best of your fields, your vineyards, and your olive groves, and give them to his servants. He will take a tenth of your grain and your vintage, and give it to his officers and servants. And he will take your male servants, your female servants, your finest young men, and your donkeys, and put them to his work. He will take a tenth of your sheep. And you will be his servants. And you will cry out in that day because of your king whom you have chosen for yourselves, and the LORD will not hear you in that day.”
Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, “No, but we will have a king over us, that we also may be like all the nations, and that our king may judge us and go out before us and fight our battles.”
And Samuel heard all the words of the people, and he repeated them in the hearing of the LORD. So the LORD said to Samuel, “Heed their voice, and make them a king.”
And Samuel said to the men of Israel, “Every man go to his city.”
I chose “other” – but there was insufficient space to fully explain it – so here goes.
I have observed that most Jews are politically, liberals. And it is part of the liberal party line to be anti-gun.
That’s the only explanation I can figure. I have also often wondered why so many Jews are anti-gun.
I think there could have been one more category, “Most of the above”.
Jews in Israel are not anti gun. They well understand that their very existence depends on their own ability to defend themselves. Jews here (and other places) think their survival depends on being accepted into the establishment and have swallowed whole the liberal establishment line.
That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
[But they don’t seem to learn. A general human failing, no doubt.]
Yep.
“There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.”
— Will Rogers
LarryA, if there was a point to that long, tedious Bible quote I missed it.