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Dishing dirt: Have you seen the reviews of Windows 8?

It’s been a long time since I’ve bothered to kick M*cr*$*ft. It’s become kind of a non-issue. In fact I was pretty impressed with the newest version of W******s that came with my laptop. (Never used it after the first few days, but it was jazzy, easy, and functional and it’s still on there as a dual-boot with Mandriva Linux.)

But boy, have you read the scathing reviews the upcoming Windows 8 is getting from its beta users?

If you want the gory details, here’s a 7,400-word analysis. And a shorter take.

Basically everybody is saying that no business or professional user will ever want to touch it. “Social” or casual users may find it fun — once they quit banging their heads on its hidden or missing features or its bizarre loss of familiar functionality (like the ability to have two apps open side-by-side).

Could M*cr*$*ft finally be about to make the error that will end its dominance of desktops and laptops — all for the sake of trying to compete with Apple on phones and tablets?


  1. Pat
    Pat June 8, 2012 4:55 am

    John Dvorak writes about Windows 8, “It makes your teeth itch as you keep asking, “Why are they doing this!?”

    Not just 8, but Win7 as well. As pretty as it is, and usable, it isn’t transparent or so easy to set up and control. MS keeps trying to make you use _their_ defaults. It’s also impossible to find where many of the OS “operations” are; twice more than XP are hidden in Win7. I’ll not be getting Win8.

    I have said for years that the only good part of MS is Publisher. This is even more true with Publisher 2010. Unfortunately it – and Adobe InDesign, which I needed for a course I was taking – only runs well on Win7.

  2. ILTim
    ILTim June 8, 2012 5:39 am

    Windows 8 is going to be a disaster, and I say this without knowing a single thing about it. See, Win95 was pretty good, 98/Me wasn’t, xp was quite good, no comment needed about vista, and win7 is a huge step up from xp. Windows 9 will probably be a small revolution sometime around 2015.

  3. Standard Mischief (dot) com
    Standard Mischief (dot) com June 8, 2012 7:39 am

    >Windows 8 is going to be a disaster

    Ye olde M$ is like Star Trek movies theory.

    >Could M*cr*$*ft finally be about to make the error that will end its dominance of desktops and laptops — all for the sake of trying to compete with Apple on phones and tablets?

    I’m far more worried about UEFI Secure Boot (and Red Hat’s embrace of it). I’m always sure I’ll be able to bypass it on my machine, but I foresee some issues trying to boot my diagnostic and backup tools on client’s hardware. But if it keeps the average user from booting a “Live” Puppy Linux disk, i suppose it’s worth it to M$

    I would be pleased to see both poor sales of W8 and a boycott of UEFI Secure Boot hardware by volume buyers combine to break the back of MS though.

  4. ILTim
    ILTim June 8, 2012 8:10 am

    Ok, I’ve read the linked articles and have more thoughts.

    “A tablet — any tablet — just isn’t a good substitute to a PC for many tasks. Huge numbers of people still need PCs for productivity work, and won’t abandon them quickly, if at all.”

    Hearing this is getting old, however true. Transitioning from a flip phone, one work pc, and one home laptop to my current iPhone, tablet, laptop, desktop, and work computer has been interesting.

    I now use iOS for nearly everything (iPhone and iPad). My laptop transitioned from Windows 7 to Ubuntu before being pretty well abandoned. I fire it up about once every two or three weeks to do something heavy with spreadsheets or other productive work. And then I spend half my time fighting with updates.

    Everything is web centric. I manage files with Dropbox, transferring pictures, pdf’s, and other files between all the different devices I use. I can plug my cameras SD card into the iPad, import pics, upload to dropbox, and they’ll find their own way onto my external USB drive at home while being immediately available to me on all devices.

    A complete wipe and reinstall of an operating system on any device barely makes me blink anymore. My electronic “life” is no longer contained in a single [home pc] silo. All these different devices simply provide ‘access’. I access my bank via an app, though it doesn’t do some things like scheduled payments, so I go to the website occasionally for irregular tasks.

    I access my eWorld using the consumptive devices [iOS] most, but occasionally access it using a heavier tool, a laptop or desktop pc when the touch interface is a greater hindrance than a help. You wipe up spills with a paper towel, but get out the mop and bucket if the whole floor needs cleaning. You drive the little import car 30 miles each way to work, but take the big ole pickup to the building materials store and the dump.

    Microsoft is the premier heavy-industry tool. For many years, before touchscreens, everyone had to use the heavy industrial tool to do “computer stuff” no matter how simplistic the task. Now the hoards have a better tool, while Microsoft remains the de-facto DeWalt brand of gittin-chit-done. And they are turning their backs on that because its a smaller share of… what exactly?

    I get that Windows 8 is dual-mode. Its trying to be an iPad on one side, a PC on the other, at the flip of a switch. Neat concept, but a remarkable failure in all products its ever been tried in. I don’t think this is the future.

  5. Mark
    Mark June 8, 2012 3:53 pm

    While I have serious doubts about Windows 8, the reviews (and as an IT professional, I am reading a LOT of reviews) are pretty split about it. I’ve tried it myself, though I haven’t yet installed the latest release, and I have mixed feelings about it, too.

  6. Carl-Bear
    Carl-Bear June 9, 2012 1:58 am

    Much as I hate to say it, Microsoft is probably on the right track, marketing-wise. I have a lot of techy friends and acquaintances that need more detailed systems access. But I know far more people who simply want to push a button and be done with it. Microsoft is catering to that larger market (something that most Linux distros still can’t wrap their heads around*).

    On the bright side, they’re also expanding the market for competent IT people who can sort out WTF W8 did with the data when things go wrong.

    Down side: I’m going to be getting more emails from friends and family asking how to fix [WTF W8 did with the data] for free.

    (* I like Ubuntu, but getting it to work with my existing dial-up modems is the equivalent of removing a car’s engine and tranny to install a new radio.)

  7. AdamSelene
    AdamSelene June 9, 2012 8:56 am


    Why do you prefer Linux? Is it a *libertarian thing*? If so, a brief explanation would be appreciated.


  8. MamaLiberty
    MamaLiberty June 9, 2012 11:44 am

    I installed Ubuntu when I was still on dial up. I had no problems connecting. I was very happy to get DSL, of course, but dial up worked ok.

  9. Claire
    Claire June 9, 2012 12:30 pm

    AdamSelene — I never thought of it as being a “libertarian thing” (though I suppose in a way it is, just as reading science fiction tends to be a “libertarian thing”). My real reasons are: price; security; do-it-yourselfability; simplicity; and a preference for dealing with small, innovative businesses over “have it OUR way” corporations.

    That said, it’s also not a religious thing for me. If other folks are happier using W******s, I’m not going to go banging on their doors with pamphlets and threats of eternal damnation. 😉 (Something a lot of us Linux users have been accused of, though perhaps not in those words.)

  10. kycolonel
    kycolonel June 9, 2012 5:22 pm

    Two words about W*****s 8. It sucks.

  11. Hanza
    Hanza June 9, 2012 8:48 pm

    I had an old machine that originally had XP that I upgraded to Vista home premium.

    I was wanting a new machine and didn’t want to wait to where my only choice was Windows 8 which I absolutely knew I didn’t want.

    So a couple of months ago I bought a top of the line Dell with Windows 7 Professional on it and I’m very happy with it.

  12. winston
    winston June 12, 2012 12:24 am

    If I wanted my pc to run like an iPad or some crap….well, thats just it. I don’t. I’d rather just throw my crappy laptop off the 3rd story balcony and use my droid for everything.

    Windoze 7 is bad enough considering half the stuff I want to run is outdated. Im trying to find someone who can put XP on it for me.

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