I intially thought she was mainly a self-centered brat. However, she has now sunk significantly lower in my estimation.
ClaireJune 17, 2015 7:08 pm
Yep, it’s a strange-looking parrot, too.
Agreed on Dolezal. Virtually everything she’s said since getting caught has been toxic in the extreme. She doesn’t see what all the fuss is about. She’s done absolutely nothing bad. It’s all someone else’s fault.
Now some odd things are coming out about her work on a citizen police-oversight board. Although the details are sketchy, and much though I hate to sympathize with cops, it sounds as if she’s been using her clout as a “black activist” to mau-mau (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mau-mau) Spokane authorities.
jedJune 17, 2015 8:18 pm
Maybe it’s an ex-parrot?
Hadn’t heard that use of “mau-mau”. Also haven’t thought of The Cross and the Switchblade for a very long while. No, I didn’t see the movie, but I did read the book.
winstonJune 18, 2015 1:20 am
I actually identify sexually as a trans-Hispanic demi-sexual Labrador and you have triggered me.
Check your privilege!
idahobobJune 18, 2015 5:17 am
Nice looking Lab!
Bob
III
MamaLibertyJune 18, 2015 5:30 am
If someone came up to me and introduced themselves as a potted plant, I’d shake their leaf and say, “nice to meet ya.” Then I’d go on about my business. I can’t figure out why anyone would give a whoop how someone else self identifies. If they are peaceful, leave them alone. If they are aggressive, engage appropriate self defense.
This little government “educated” spoiled brat needs to be ignored. If people would just ignore the trolls (if defense was not called for), I suspect there would eventually be far fewer of them. Fame on the nightly news, with this silly twit’s picture posted a million times all over the net… only going to encourage her and more like her.
Don’t feed the trolls.
But I love the Labrador picture. Now there’s a 100% honest individual who knows exactly who and what he is. Well, except maybe for the illusion that he’s a lap dog… 🙂
PatJune 18, 2015 6:23 am
It’s true, the media keeps this story alive.
OTOH, I do have some objection to self-identity. Ignoring it seems to be the thing to do (and for the moment I’m doing just that), but it also encourages the belief that the emperor is wearing clothes when he isn’t.
This pic does a disservice to the Labrador; a Persian cat would indeed act like Dolezol.
ClaireJune 18, 2015 7:50 am
“If someone came up to me and introduced themselves as a potted plant …”
🙂 Yeah, same here. But that doesn’t mean we’d agree that the person is a potted plant. Or black. Or a woman. Or a white Persian cat.
And what Dolezal did went way, way, way beyond mere self-identification. She’s been lying to people for years, apparently with the purpose of getting a free ride on the “I’m a victim” gravy train with all the status and power being a victim affords in these crazy days.
I realize Dolezal is just getting 15 minutes of fame courtesy of the media and even snarky bloggers. Nobody’s likely to remember her a year from now. But she has happened to land smack in the middle of two cultural trends that are ripe for a close-up look (victimization as power and the whole “trans” thing).
ClaireJune 18, 2015 7:53 am
“Nice looking Lab!”
Ahem. Self-identified white feline-American, idahobob. Are you micro-aggressing against her/him/it by attempting to invalidate her/him/its feelings about her/him/its own identity? 😉
As poor, victimized (and undoubtedly very confused) winston says, “Check your privilege!”
jansJune 18, 2015 8:29 am
Rachel Dolezal’s Native American friend.
Matt, anotherJune 18, 2015 8:47 am
If that self-identified lbracat has been neutered, can it claim a trans or non-gender identity?
Bob AdkinsonJune 18, 2015 9:05 am
“Nobody’s likely to remember her a year from now”
I’ll remind you what you said when her reality show comes on right after Jenner’s. 🙂
Paul BonneauJune 18, 2015 9:35 am
[She’s been lying to people for years, apparently with the purpose of getting a free ride on the “I’m a victim” gravy train with all the status and power being a victim affords in these crazy days.]
And thank Heaven for that. Look at the positives to come out of this: 1) lots’o laughs at politics and humanity in general, and 2) victimology looking more shabby by the minute. Nothing wrong with that my friends.
“Here (in America) the daily panorama of human existence, of private and communal folly, the unending procession of governmental extortions and chicaneries, of commercial brigandages and throat slittings, of theological buffoneeries, of aesthetic ribaldries, of legal swindles and harlotries, of miscellaneous rogueries, villanies, imbecilities, grotesqueries, and extravagances is so inordinately gross and preposterous, so perfectly brought up to the highest conceivable amperage, so steadily enriched with an almost fabulous daring and originality, that only a person born with a petrified diaphram can fail to laugh himself to sleep every night and wake up with all the eager, unflagging expectation of a Sunday-School superintendent touring the Paris peep-shows.”
–HL Mencken
I can’t get over how on-target this Mencken quote is. He sure had an accurate reading on the human race.
revjen45June 18, 2015 9:49 am
I saw an article conflating Bruce/Caitlin (and now applicable to Rachel Dolezal) to a kit car. Outside looks like a Porsche inside is a Volkswagen. Doesn’t make it a Porsche.
davidJune 18, 2015 11:40 am
I’m bored already with identity-issue people. Jenner & Dolezal (sounds like a hardware & paint store – pun intended) are just passe already. It’s like gawking at a wreck on the whiz-way but not stopping. We need new emotional oddities to amaze and amuse us. My attention span is already expired for these two.
MamaLibertyJune 18, 2015 12:20 pm
“OTOH, I do have some objection to self-identity. Ignoring it seems to be the thing to do (and for the moment I’m doing just that), but it also encourages the belief that the emperor is wearing clothes when he isn’t.”
Pat, did you ever try to force someone to believe anything you say? Self identification is unavoidable. Everyone else is truly free to take it or leave it. Even going to court and being forced to bake cakes or whatever does not involve being forced to actually believe or accept.
Yes, the woman is certainly a liar, and probably a thief as well… but nobody is obligated to believe her, or anyone else, of course. Most people seem to accept the most wildly unbelievable with very little effort. Seems to me that’s the problem.
ClaireJune 18, 2015 12:50 pm
“Pat, did you ever try to force someone to believe anything you say? Self identification is unavoidable. Everyone else is truly free to take it or leave it.”
I don’t think Pat meant she’d try to change the mind of the self-identifying person or keep others from accepting or rejecting someone else’s self identification. If I understand correctly, she was talking about the broader issue of cultural acceptance — the idea that as a society we should accept the “truth” that genetic males are female because they say so or that genetic Caucasians are black because they self-identify and so on.
You’re absolutely right that individuals are going to identify as they wish. Being expected to assume that someone else’s self-identification should become everyone else’s reality is another thing. And that seems to be the growing political doctrine (which Ms Dolezal unintentionally upended).
PatJune 18, 2015 1:23 pm
ML – I’ve never tried to *force* anyone to believe /anything/ – and I’m not sure what the question implies.
I was speaking in terms of anyone who says “X is true”, expecting others to believe it because s/he says it. (including government officials and government policy as well.)
Dolezal (and Jenner, too) are not what they say they are because they say it, they are what reality is. If they wish to disillusion themselves, that’s their problem. If, in some way, their disillusionment affects my life, then I will speak up. Otherwise, I will ignore them.
That doesn’t change what they are, however, and I was just trying to point out that fact. If, to satisfy PC, we pretend that the Emperor IS wearing clothes, what does that make us?
just waitingJune 18, 2015 3:11 pm
I think that trans-identification in animals really is possible. My neighbor has a cute little kitten that’s trapped inside a 110 lb Doberman body.
KarenJune 18, 2015 3:57 pm
“My neighbor has a cute little kitten that’s trapped inside a 110 lb Doberman body.”
I believe that. We’ve had any number of ferocious rottweilers trapped inside toy and tiny toy poodle bodies. What a hoot.
Jed. really nice link. if hellinahandbasket’s usually that good it’s going on my blogroll.
LarryAJune 19, 2015 12:00 am
My neighbor has a cute little kitten that’s trapped inside a 110 lb Doberman body.
You never know. Andy, the Cairn that helped raise our daughters, was all fluff and cute and smiled through everything the kids put him through. Until a rat from the field out back made a run at our youngest. Then it was fangs and claws and law-of-the-jungle. He took care of business, and went back to being Andy.
MamaLibertyJune 19, 2015 5:15 am
ML – I’ve never tried to *force* anyone to believe /anything/ – and I’m not sure what the question implies.
Pat, of course you have not tried that… and you know it would be pointless. So, how does someone else’s self identification affect your life? Nobody can force you to believe anything either. 🙂
Now, if you are saying that her self identity affects how government impinges on your life, the problem then is government impingement, with her identity thing merely another tool of the tyranny. That we must deal with on a whole different level.
And no, if some human thinks she’s a potted plant, it doesn’t change the reality, but it also doesn’t affect the lives of others (outside of her family, perhaps)… unless you can think of a way that belief is actually some kind of aggression against you.
Why does anyone care what she thinks she is or isn’t? Why would we have to pretend anything about it – even if others obviously do? Me, I’m just going to go back to ignoring it. 🙂
just waitingJune 19, 2015 6:55 am
ML,
I get what you’re saying, but let’s broaden it.
Dolazel and Jenner can self-identify and claim to be whatever they want.
Doesn’t matter to me how they identify, never will.
But you have a guy like Donald Trump. He self-identifies as an important person whose words and ideas grant him some kind of supremacy over us all. He believes and identifies himself as some pseudo-savior who can save His America. Reality is he’s nothing more than a potted plant, another rich egomaniac blowhard who likes to hear and see himself on tv. His exposure is due primarily to his self-identification as a “someone who matters”
Doesn’t matter to me how he identifies, but he has the money and power that if he ever buys himself the government, well it certainly will matter, to me and you and everyone else.
ClaireJune 19, 2015 7:04 am
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire
MamaLibertyJune 19, 2015 10:17 am
“Doesn’t matter to me how he identifies, but he has the money and power that if he ever buys himself the government, well it certainly will matter, to me and you and everyone else.”
Nope… I don’t expect it to matter much at all in the long run. There are a very large number of wealthy people trying to do the same thing. None of them will achieve the utopia they seek either… and the more they buy the elections, fight among themselves, stomp on others because they can… the closer the whole mess gets to the drop off point. Such tyranny is unsustainable. They are destroying themselves at an unprecedented rate, and I’m glad – though I am sad for the terrible chaos and suffering that will result.
That’s a damn funny looking iguana.
I intially thought she was mainly a self-centered brat. However, she has now sunk significantly lower in my estimation.
Yep, it’s a strange-looking parrot, too.
Agreed on Dolezal. Virtually everything she’s said since getting caught has been toxic in the extreme. She doesn’t see what all the fuss is about. She’s done absolutely nothing bad. It’s all someone else’s fault.
Now some odd things are coming out about her work on a citizen police-oversight board. Although the details are sketchy, and much though I hate to sympathize with cops, it sounds as if she’s been using her clout as a “black activist” to mau-mau (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mau-mau) Spokane authorities.
Maybe it’s an ex-parrot?
Hadn’t heard that use of “mau-mau”. Also haven’t thought of The Cross and the Switchblade for a very long while. No, I didn’t see the movie, but I did read the book.
I actually identify sexually as a trans-Hispanic demi-sexual Labrador and you have triggered me.
Check your privilege!
Nice looking Lab!
Bob
III
If someone came up to me and introduced themselves as a potted plant, I’d shake their leaf and say, “nice to meet ya.” Then I’d go on about my business. I can’t figure out why anyone would give a whoop how someone else self identifies. If they are peaceful, leave them alone. If they are aggressive, engage appropriate self defense.
This little government “educated” spoiled brat needs to be ignored. If people would just ignore the trolls (if defense was not called for), I suspect there would eventually be far fewer of them. Fame on the nightly news, with this silly twit’s picture posted a million times all over the net… only going to encourage her and more like her.
Don’t feed the trolls.
But I love the Labrador picture. Now there’s a 100% honest individual who knows exactly who and what he is. Well, except maybe for the illusion that he’s a lap dog… 🙂
It’s true, the media keeps this story alive.
OTOH, I do have some objection to self-identity. Ignoring it seems to be the thing to do (and for the moment I’m doing just that), but it also encourages the belief that the emperor is wearing clothes when he isn’t.
This pic does a disservice to the Labrador; a Persian cat would indeed act like Dolezol.
“If someone came up to me and introduced themselves as a potted plant …”
🙂 Yeah, same here. But that doesn’t mean we’d agree that the person is a potted plant. Or black. Or a woman. Or a white Persian cat.
And what Dolezal did went way, way, way beyond mere self-identification. She’s been lying to people for years, apparently with the purpose of getting a free ride on the “I’m a victim” gravy train with all the status and power being a victim affords in these crazy days.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/06/18/rachel_dolezal_americas_newest_victim_127024.html
I realize Dolezal is just getting 15 minutes of fame courtesy of the media and even snarky bloggers. Nobody’s likely to remember her a year from now. But she has happened to land smack in the middle of two cultural trends that are ripe for a close-up look (victimization as power and the whole “trans” thing).
“Nice looking Lab!”
Ahem. Self-identified white feline-American, idahobob. Are you micro-aggressing against her/him/it by attempting to invalidate her/him/its feelings about her/him/its own identity? 😉
As poor, victimized (and undoubtedly very confused) winston says, “Check your privilege!”
Rachel Dolezal’s Native American friend.
If that self-identified lbracat has been neutered, can it claim a trans or non-gender identity?
“Nobody’s likely to remember her a year from now”
I’ll remind you what you said when her reality show comes on right after Jenner’s. 🙂
[She’s been lying to people for years, apparently with the purpose of getting a free ride on the “I’m a victim” gravy train with all the status and power being a victim affords in these crazy days.]
And thank Heaven for that. Look at the positives to come out of this: 1) lots’o laughs at politics and humanity in general, and 2) victimology looking more shabby by the minute. Nothing wrong with that my friends.
“Here (in America) the daily panorama of human existence, of private and communal folly, the unending procession of governmental extortions and chicaneries, of commercial brigandages and throat slittings, of theological buffoneeries, of aesthetic ribaldries, of legal swindles and harlotries, of miscellaneous rogueries, villanies, imbecilities, grotesqueries, and extravagances is so inordinately gross and preposterous, so perfectly brought up to the highest conceivable amperage, so steadily enriched with an almost fabulous daring and originality, that only a person born with a petrified diaphram can fail to laugh himself to sleep every night and wake up with all the eager, unflagging expectation of a Sunday-School superintendent touring the Paris peep-shows.”
–HL Mencken
I can’t get over how on-target this Mencken quote is. He sure had an accurate reading on the human race.
I saw an article conflating Bruce/Caitlin (and now applicable to Rachel Dolezal) to a kit car. Outside looks like a Porsche inside is a Volkswagen. Doesn’t make it a Porsche.
I’m bored already with identity-issue people. Jenner & Dolezal (sounds like a hardware & paint store – pun intended) are just passe already. It’s like gawking at a wreck on the whiz-way but not stopping. We need new emotional oddities to amaze and amuse us. My attention span is already expired for these two.
“OTOH, I do have some objection to self-identity. Ignoring it seems to be the thing to do (and for the moment I’m doing just that), but it also encourages the belief that the emperor is wearing clothes when he isn’t.”
Pat, did you ever try to force someone to believe anything you say? Self identification is unavoidable. Everyone else is truly free to take it or leave it. Even going to court and being forced to bake cakes or whatever does not involve being forced to actually believe or accept.
Yes, the woman is certainly a liar, and probably a thief as well… but nobody is obligated to believe her, or anyone else, of course. Most people seem to accept the most wildly unbelievable with very little effort. Seems to me that’s the problem.
“Pat, did you ever try to force someone to believe anything you say? Self identification is unavoidable. Everyone else is truly free to take it or leave it.”
I don’t think Pat meant she’d try to change the mind of the self-identifying person or keep others from accepting or rejecting someone else’s self identification. If I understand correctly, she was talking about the broader issue of cultural acceptance — the idea that as a society we should accept the “truth” that genetic males are female because they say so or that genetic Caucasians are black because they self-identify and so on.
You’re absolutely right that individuals are going to identify as they wish. Being expected to assume that someone else’s self-identification should become everyone else’s reality is another thing. And that seems to be the growing political doctrine (which Ms Dolezal unintentionally upended).
ML – I’ve never tried to *force* anyone to believe /anything/ – and I’m not sure what the question implies.
I was speaking in terms of anyone who says “X is true”, expecting others to believe it because s/he says it. (including government officials and government policy as well.)
Dolezal (and Jenner, too) are not what they say they are because they say it, they are what reality is. If they wish to disillusion themselves, that’s their problem. If, in some way, their disillusionment affects my life, then I will speak up. Otherwise, I will ignore them.
That doesn’t change what they are, however, and I was just trying to point out that fact. If, to satisfy PC, we pretend that the Emperor IS wearing clothes, what does that make us?
I think that trans-identification in animals really is possible. My neighbor has a cute little kitten that’s trapped inside a 110 lb Doberman body.
“My neighbor has a cute little kitten that’s trapped inside a 110 lb Doberman body.”
I believe that. We’ve had any number of ferocious rottweilers trapped inside toy and tiny toy poodle bodies. What a hoot.
Here’s another trans-species dog.
Jed. really nice link. if hellinahandbasket’s usually that good it’s going on my blogroll.
My neighbor has a cute little kitten that’s trapped inside a 110 lb Doberman body.
You never know. Andy, the Cairn that helped raise our daughters, was all fluff and cute and smiled through everything the kids put him through. Until a rat from the field out back made a run at our youngest. Then it was fangs and claws and law-of-the-jungle. He took care of business, and went back to being Andy.
ML – I’ve never tried to *force* anyone to believe /anything/ – and I’m not sure what the question implies.
Pat, of course you have not tried that… and you know it would be pointless. So, how does someone else’s self identification affect your life? Nobody can force you to believe anything either. 🙂
Now, if you are saying that her self identity affects how government impinges on your life, the problem then is government impingement, with her identity thing merely another tool of the tyranny. That we must deal with on a whole different level.
And no, if some human thinks she’s a potted plant, it doesn’t change the reality, but it also doesn’t affect the lives of others (outside of her family, perhaps)… unless you can think of a way that belief is actually some kind of aggression against you.
Why does anyone care what she thinks she is or isn’t? Why would we have to pretend anything about it – even if others obviously do? Me, I’m just going to go back to ignoring it. 🙂
ML,
I get what you’re saying, but let’s broaden it.
Dolazel and Jenner can self-identify and claim to be whatever they want.
Doesn’t matter to me how they identify, never will.
But you have a guy like Donald Trump. He self-identifies as an important person whose words and ideas grant him some kind of supremacy over us all. He believes and identifies himself as some pseudo-savior who can save His America. Reality is he’s nothing more than a potted plant, another rich egomaniac blowhard who likes to hear and see himself on tv. His exposure is due primarily to his self-identification as a “someone who matters”
Doesn’t matter to me how he identifies, but he has the money and power that if he ever buys himself the government, well it certainly will matter, to me and you and everyone else.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire
“Doesn’t matter to me how he identifies, but he has the money and power that if he ever buys himself the government, well it certainly will matter, to me and you and everyone else.”
Nope… I don’t expect it to matter much at all in the long run. There are a very large number of wealthy people trying to do the same thing. None of them will achieve the utopia they seek either… and the more they buy the elections, fight among themselves, stomp on others because they can… the closer the whole mess gets to the drop off point. Such tyranny is unsustainable. They are destroying themselves at an unprecedented rate, and I’m glad – though I am sad for the terrible chaos and suffering that will result.