Maybe he really was mentally ill. Who knows? But I’ll also bet that the latest publicity-seeking member of the self-esteem generation, this “supreme gentleman,” this “god,” had his every whim indulged from the day he was born.
So many, many questions. If “the NRA” is responsible for the three he shot, then who was responsible for the three he stabbed? And if “the NRA” is responsible for the stabbings, too, then who’s responsible for the fact that “authorities” repeatedly ignored the content of the little creep’s videos and apparently did nothing to discover whether this threatening loon (about whom they seem to have, once again, had multiple warnings) possessed deadly weapons? Was that the doing of “the NRA,” too? Or did the eeeeevil guns themselves somehow hypnotize said authorities during their visits, so they didn’t notice what the creeping little loser was up to?
“But I’ll also bet that the latest publicity-seeking member of the self-esteem generation […] had his every whim indulged…”
Hint: He was driving a Beemer.
It’s no wonder that some people fall into the trap of believing in certain conspiracies. The latest batch of reports I’ve read today (including screencaps of the allleged shooter’s own posts) would have it that 1) the punk’s family reported him, 2) at least one (possibly more) gov health agencies reported him, 3) he’d posted rather explicit and specific threats — right down to locations and people, and admitted to the deputies who came to “investigate” that he had problems. Therefore, he wasn’t a danger to anyone, and it’s all the the NRA’s fault because the scumbag complied with the onerous Brady Paradise laws, background checks, waiting periods, registration, mag cap limits, and all.
Huh. Kinda reminds me of Loughner and Sheriff Dupnik.
(Didn’t read the Ayoob piece (haven’t since he called the NOLA cops heroes in Katrina, claimed no one confiscated weapons, claimed I made several accusations which I had NOT, and refused to answer the questions I did ask). Did he have anything truly useful to add? Did it include a defense of the Sheriff’s Office for not really acting on the threat reports?)
Speaking of overly indulged whims…
With respect, you have no idea with what values this young man was brought up.
Whilst his grieving parents attempt to deal with this nightmare that has befallen them, you presume to pass judgement on their parenting.
It was they who reported their concerns regarding their son to the appropriate authorities. Surely the action of a responsible parent?
wottabrat.
I’m guessing that most females saw him for high maintenance needy individual he was and stayed well out of the way.
On the whole nature -nurture question, showbiz, by definition attracts people with high maintenance personalities, well outside of the normal range.
whatever natural potential this character might have held to turn into an idiot, I’m guessing that he was in the kind of environment where he had the best possible opportunities to develop that potential to the full. It would be very interesting to know whether his mother or step mother were high maintenance, and also whether the seemingly competent father was actually the biological father.
It is strange, people from a long line of sober, well respected family, with sober well respected siblings, can turn out to be complete idiots.
Also, apparently there is a genetic marker for propensity to extreme violence, but people carrying it who are raised in a normal environment have lower rates of violent behaviour than the normal population.
Who raised that monster, and who enabled him with plenty of money and time on his hands? Not the NRA, I think. If his family thought he was crazy, why in the world didn’t THEY prevent him from getting guns? They must have paid for them one way or another. Insane to think this is anyone’s fault but the monster and his own family.
The major reason he was able to kill so many people is that NONE of them, nor any of the bystanders, had any rational way to defend themselves, and had even been brainwashed to think it was either impossible or unnecessary. The first designated victims should have been ready, willing and able to blow his brains out.
Funny how none of these massacres take place where everyone else is armed…
I think they just threw money to him and left him to his own devices in order to make up for the lack of time they spent with him. Usually when people are that rich they work a lot to justify their pay, as they would be expected to.
With all his bragging about his first class treatment to a few hundred strong “private” concert, I’m surprised they didn’t tuck him in with Katy Perry.
Elliot Rodger Flew Under Radar, Says Sheriff
California police visited the home of the deranged young man as he plotted his massacre last month, but he was able to dupe them.
Deputies visited the 22-year-old in April at his apartment in the seaside town of Isla Vista to check on him after his family expressed concern about his health. But Santa Barbara County Sheriff Bill Brown said the officers had found the suspect to be “timid” and decided there was no reason to take further action.
http://news.sky.com/story/1268939/elliot-rodger-flew-under-radar-says-sheriff
Now consider all the other stories where the family calls police to “check on” someone. Why did this guy have to be the one to slip through the crack?
Ah, hindsight is always 20-20.
He was rich, I’ve heard people say he was good-looking (personally he’s not my type), and yet he couldn’t get a date? Considering some of the sickos that I’ve seen girls fall for, I find that hard to believe.
Even the smell of crazy isn’t enough to repel some people. Some even seem to like it. He would have had to just about lock himself in his room in order to keep the girls away.
At least, that’s my opinion after having spent years trying to talk friends into leaving guys as sick as him.
Now, I know this will sound absolutely insane….but, I am beginning to wonder considering ever since that Columbine incident there is not something more insideous afoot. is it possible, even remotely, that this is some kind of hideous project by some government? As in; Let us say finding somone who is more than a little off balance and then goading them into doing some mass murder thing? Even worse, those who are close to the victims seem to not be able to see the reality of the insanity of the perpetrators but instead jump on the political bandwagon. Now, just why is it that when something like this happens the politicians jump on the attack? Could it be they see it as a means of vote getting? If so, then we are back to the beginning part of my comment.
Curt,
It doesn’t look insane at all.
There are plenty of hard examples of parents contacting the state, hoping that moloch will help a confused child.
and what has emerged is that the individual has been gleefully led even further astray and into performing some street theatre for his new handlers – whether or not that coaching and performance concluded with a high profile sting. Here’s an example researched by Will Grigg; http://freedominourtime.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/lights-camera-entrapment-homeland.html
Without further info I wouldn’t claim that it was the case with this one – but it is not beyond the bounds of what we’ve seen else where.
I’d better add too that it is not beyond the bounds of what we’ve seen with Fast & Furious, creating statistics for guns sourced through American civillian chanels, turning up at Mexican crime scenes.
I imagine there are at least 20 different agendas this story can support. There’s pieces of it that covers 99% of the population, in one form or the other. – Anyone who’s ever been bullied, lonely, depressed, shy, experienced sexism, other peoples’ callous way of talking to other people, virgins, Aspies, feared for their personal safety, etc etc the list goes on and on. The most disturbing one (in my opinion) is how the “feminists” jumped all over it. Which makes me chuckle because some feminists on a rant sound like selfish entitled people also. Some of them sound like the type who’d incite a violent reaction just by their condescending attitudes.
I don’t know what happened to society. Even an insane kid acting out his uncontrollable pain is denied being heard in death, it became everyone else’s relate-able story. The ultimate ignore. But it’s far from “just another gun story” this time. It better be a wake up call for mental health issues. It definitely needs to be a wake up call for all parents out there – maybe your special snowflake is a bit to special. And maybe kids need to discover some old fashioned discipline and work.
I wouldn’t worry about the gun control aspects. There are too many things about this case that don’t bear close inspection. Anyway I think people are pretty resistant to being stampeded by unusual cases, and mass shootings are so rare you might as well worry about being struck by lightning on a clear day.
I wouldn’t worry about the gun control aspects. There are too many things about this case that don’t bear close inspection.
Except “close inspection” isn’t what we’re getting. People on both sides are getting pushed, and are pushing. Rocks are getting rockier, and hard places harder.
Maybe I’m just being hinky. There were two cop cars in front of my house when I went for my morning walk. (They were there because I’m down the street from the house they were interested in.) Ultimately it was no big deal, but the no-big-deal stuff is getting more frequent.