Yesterday morning we were at 400-some signatures (toward a 500 goal) on our petition to keep JPFO from falling into SAF’s clutches.
Thanks to old friend Elias Alias and the power of Oath Keepers, we are at 1,016 early this morning as I write this!
Great-soul Elias and the members of the Oath Keepers email list did this on their own. Amazing thing.
Since I’m persona non grata with the JPFO board, maybe a few of you would like to send them the petition link. Their email addresses are in the original post about the SAF deal.
Update on the planned sellout
I don’t know whether we can save JPFO. Very, very mixed signals right now.
On one hand, one of the members of the rescue group used her passion for JPFO and her powers of persuasion. She got some hints that the JPFO board might hear what we had to say and she herded us cats into submitting a revised version of last week’s outline proposal.
On the other hand, the SAF deal may (I stress may) have been signed already. Once again, as usual in this mess, we simply don’t know. It’s impossible to say because the board and SAF have continued to operate in complete secrecy.
ADDED: The cynical part of me (which never seems to be cynical enough, these days) fears that the last-minute agreement to consider our outline proposal is merely a dodge — something to keep us quiet while the SAF deal is inked. Something to give the board the ability to say, “We gave their plans a fair hearing but found them inadequate.”
I hope I’m wrong.
Given that we have two of JPFO’s corporate sponsors working with the rescue team, “inadequate” is untrue. Unwanted still remains likely.
Mixed is apparently correct. GSL is reporting that it’s going forward.
I don’t know what sources John Boch has on this, but I assume that it’s coming from SAF.
Thanks for the word, jed. I believe (though as with most everything else connected with this deal, I have no way of actually knowing) that Boch’s source is JPFO board member Bob Meier.
Boch’s informant, whoever it may be, is self-interested and has previously fed him what can charitably called distortions.
It may be true that the deal is a done thing. I also heard about potential meetings to “finalize” things. Maybe Thursday the 28th, maybe yesterday. Then suddenly we heard that they’d actually consider our alternate proposal. So who the heck knows?
If the SAF deal is signed, Boch will probably be told about it before any of JPFO’s workers, members, corporate sponsors, or donors are.
No disrespect to Boch, who seems sincere. But if the news goes to him before it goes to JPFO’s closest associates, it will be one more sign of exactly how little the JPFO board cares for the “house that Aaron built.”
Jed, that link seems to be the same John Boch that claimed to get his not-so-factual-facts from a JPFO insider. As noted at the bottom of the post, Gottlieb said he wrong; the complete Gottlieb quote included, ” It would be nice if some people reloaded their brain before they shoot their mouths off. Friendly fire can lose a war!”.
I suspect the deal has been inked, but they’re waiting until the furor dies down, and all the 2 minute attention span types go away, to formally announce it. This being a three day weekend, they might release a statement around 8PM Sunday.
“Supporters of the merger, including Mas Ayoob, have come down in support of Gottlieb,”
Well, that really doesn’t give me any sort of confidence. Ayoob is quite happy to limit gun ownership to those who properly bow and touch their caps to “authority.”
Well, Mama, that’s about right, since Gottlieb favors begging for permission.
(BHM should really drop Ayoob, and let him move to a more appropriate venue like PoliceOne. Firearms expertise does not equal a love of liberty. Just ask Lon Horiuchi.)
It seems to me there is a lot more behind this thing than meets the eye. Assuming the SAF has signed… I cannot imagine any sane person keeping their membership. In truth, I really have no sense of “security” with any on line organization considering what is going on with our government. “Divide and conquer” seems to be very well and alive today. Do we need groups to defend our rights? You bet we do. I cannot help but think that in the days ahead we will see much more disinformation being put out by the powers that be. That, and more insertion of moles in our organzations. Scary, for sure. The thing is, just how do we fo about finding out if we are so to speak compromised?
Claire, you’re welcome. Oath Keepers and I are always glad to do anything for you.
Salute!
Elias
Ayoob has never seen a murder by cops he doesnt defend.All killing by the ‘heroes’ is good to his kind.Walking towards a ‘heroe’ is a capital crime.Total subservience to them is demanded and enforced by the death penalty,on the spot.
Seems like gangbangers and cowards to me.Afraid of everyone,and above all laws the rest of us follow.Guess that comes with a sociopathic personality and lower than normal IQ that is now the norm for our ‘heroes’.
But Karma has a way of dealing with his ilk,and already has in Mas’ case.And Gods final judgement isnt going to be good for him and them either.
Why BHM has him I really dont know.A true stain on the publication.
You may have to reboot the organization under a new name, provided you can find someone to spearhead it.
Aaron’s death may have been the real end of JPFO … all organizations have a crying need for real organizers, and if a real replacement for Aaron cannot be found, the membership may be forced to just walk away.
Kristophr, the loss of the copyright to all of the JPFO materials and logos would be a serious barrier to recreation of the organization. We probably couldn’t even buy it all back.
Nothing is forever, obviously. Seems to me an honorable death of the organization is preferable to what may become of it now… but we were not given a choice in the matter.
I had to go back and review the pics to see what “shoe sole reflection” you were referring to. Didn’t even occur to me how odd that appears at the time I sent it. Neither a mirror nor window, but rather a large promo still from a b&w era film. Either Fred Astaire or a similar dancer. Surrounded by such things led us to discuss classic films in general, the recent passing of Bacall, and this scene in particular: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YPTm5DWJGK0. So many subtle layers of game displayed, it’s no wonder they married in real life shortly after this. Hollywood most certainly DOES NOT make films like this anymore.